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Old 06-11-2018, 14:23   #4696
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Well, they may show films via streaming services, if the streamer gets placed onto the platforms.

If you think about Amazon, after books and music, its origins were in DVD sales. With DVD sales on terminal decline and Amazon only dipping their toe into streaming, I'm not sure how Amazon fits into the streaming world yet. They're certainly not copying Netflix and spending several billion on content. They could, but for now, they're not.
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Crickey OB no wonder Denphone pulls you up so much your views change more than that of a politician.

The link above confirms Sky has just extended its deals with 2 other studios and Universal are owned by Comcast so I'd expect Sky Cinema to stay even if it loses Disney/Fox content in 2020.

The studios going alone eventually will see content removed from Netflix and Amazon.
But Disney/Fox content accounts for a third of all stuff on Sky's films channels. That's a massive loss. Lose another studio and then it will be up to almost a half of content lost.
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The link above confirms Sky has just extended its deals with 2 other studios and Universal are owned by Comcast so I'd expect Sky Cinema to stay even if it loses Disney/Fox content in 2020.
Strange how that is forgotten somehow.
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Agreed but they'll obviously have to change how they sell it , wasn't Sky Movies originally included with Sky TV years back ?

Content lost money saved to invest elsewhere haven't they ready dabbled with original movies ?

I suppose another option is making the Movies be part of the Ultimate On Demand package it now sells.

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But Disney/Fox content accounts for a third of all stuff on Sky's films channels. That's a massive loss. Loss another studio and then it will be up to almost a half of content lost.
Not really as Sky's movie channels were pretty popular long before Sky did their deal with Disney for their film content.
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Ok, denphone, if you don't think a third of all content is a loss, I can't really add anything further than that. Remember its Disney and Fox stuff.

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Agreed but they'll obviously have to change how they sell it , wasn't Sky Movies originally included with Sky TV years back ?

Content lost money saved to invest elsewhere haven't they ready dabbled with original movies ?

I suppose another option is making the Movies be part of the Ultimate On Demand package it now sells.
Without turning this into the linear channels thread, but its all interlinked, that AT&T deal with Sky is also up in 2020. If Sky lose that content too, that is almost certainly the end of Sky Atlantic as a viable channel.
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I have a hunch that if Disney and Fox remove their content and that's still a big if for me that you'll have to subscribe to two apps to watch Disney and Fox movies as Disney has stated their app won't have any R rated content.

I can see Disney having it's own app and the Fox movies being on an international version of Hulu.

Can't see Deadpool being on with Mary Poppins.

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I have a hunch that if Disney and Fox remove their content and that's still a big if for me that you'll have to subscribe to two apps to watch Disney and Fox movies as Disney has stated their app won't have any R rated content.

I can see Disney having it's own app and the Fox movies being on an international version of Hulu.

Can't see Deadpool being on with Mary Poppins.
Ifs , buts and maybes now where have l heard that before as l am still waiting for those old ifs , buts and maybes to transpire.
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Nothing is certain as yet and all these battles between the media cos will be played out all over the world with various broadcasters and pay-tv companies. Perhaps they will all get on, or perhaps not.

We don't know Disney's international plans yet, but in the States Disney has four streaming apps: Hulu, Disney, ABC and ESPN with their new super-douper streaming service coming next year bringing the total to five.

That's doesn't seem sustainable to me and I think it will be just one in the end.
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Crickey OB no wonder Denphone pulls you up so much your views change more than that of a politician.

The link above confirms Sky has just extended its deals with 2 other studios and Universal are owned by Comcast so I'd expect Sky Cinema to stay even if it loses Disney/Fox content in 2020.

The studios going alone eventually will see content removed from Netflix and Amazon.
If you look again, you will see that those deals were made within the existing contractual periods.

Anyway, as you know and as I keep explaining, there is the now, and there is the future.

Remember, it was only a few years ago that you and others were saying that as Netflix was competition for Virgin, it would never get added to our STBs as an app. But look where we are now.

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But Disney/Fox content accounts for a third of all stuff on Sky's films channels. That's a massive loss. Lose another studio and then it will be up to almost a half of content lost.
Quite. I'm not sure why muppetman finds so much to disagree with on this subject! Sky's new deal with the studios is just an attempt to temporary shore up a heavy content loss.

This is just the beginning.

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Ifs , buts and maybes now where have l heard that before as l am still waiting for those old ifs , buts and maybes to transpire.
Netflix is on the V6. That's already transpired.

It's only 2018, Den. Nobody has said all these predictions are going to happen tomorrow.

However, even you and muppetman must at least be starting to see the trend.
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Quite. I'm not sure why muppetman finds so much to disagree with on this subject! Sky's new deal with the studios is just an attempt to temporary shore up a heavy content loss.
Its a discussion forum and as such I post my views , let's be honest this is something none of us on here can fully predict.

The reasoning I give for Disney/Fox not removing all it's content from platforms over here is as follows.

The streaming service will launch by the end of 2019 if all goes to plan which you'd imagine will happen first in the United States. All the pay platforms still have Disney and Fox channels available on their platforms not only that many have their content available on their OTT services.

As an example of this Comcast Xfinity Stream has Disney Channel , FX , National Geographic
, ESPN and Fox Sports.

I'm not trying to completely discount the article I just don't buy into all Disney/Fox content being removed from pay platforms whilst the Movies clearly impact Sky every other UK platform take some form of Disney/Fox content.

It's a wait and see I guess but a question for you , if as you say all Disney/Fox content becomes only available directly through them why we not hearing more noise from the US about platforms battling to agree to keep rights to their channels.
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Its a discussion forum and as such I post my views , let's be honest this is something none of us on here can fully predict.

The reasoning I give for Disney/Fox not removing all it's content from platforms over here is as follows.

The streaming service will launch by the end of 2019 if all goes to plan which you'd imagine will happen first in the United States. All the pay platforms still have Disney and Fox channels available on their platforms not only that many have their content available on their OTT services.

As an example of this Comcast Xfinity Stream has Disney Channel , FX , National Geographic
, ESPN and Fox Sports.

I'm not trying to completely discount the article I just don't buy into all Disney/Fox content being removed from pay platforms whilst the Movies clearly impact Sky every other UK platform take some form of Disney/Fox content.

It's a wait and see I guess but a question for you , if as you say all Disney/Fox content becomes only available directly through them why we not hearing more noise from the US about platforms battling to agree to keep rights to their channels.
It's an evolving situation, I guess. How quickly Disney content is loaded on to their new website, whether it will initially include TV series and whether content on their website will be exclusive to their website are all questions for Disney to address.
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Quite. I'm not sure why muppetman finds so much to disagree with on this subject! Sky's new deal with the studios is just an attempt to temporary shore up a heavy content loss.

This is just the beginning..
Keep saying it and you might just believe in it yourself.

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Netflix is on the V6. That's already transpired.

It's only 2018, Den. Nobody has said all these predictions are going to happen tomorrow.

However, even you and muppetman must at least be starting to see the trend.
Look at your long lists of previous posts and that is exactly what you have generally predicted.

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However, even you and muppetman must at least be starting to see the trend.
Actually we do see a trend but its not that one OB.
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Keep saying it and you might just believe it yourself
Well, you did read the link, did you not? Here's another to give you food for thought.


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/finance/ne...100/ar-BBPlKdJ


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Look at your long lists of previous posts and that is exactly what you have generally predicted.
I have never said these changes will be happening imminently, Den. For some reason, you morph all of my statements about the future in this way. Why?

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Actually we do see a trend but its not that one OB.
Do enlighten us, Den! What trend do you see, and how?

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