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Old 14-12-2018, 17:14   #4846
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A lot of ppl may not be interested in shows that go back decades, original content would be my preferred choice.
I'm not sure of your point , Disney/Fox , Warner Media and Comcast/Sky make far more original content than Netflix.

Back catalogue is equally as important though for a successful service that people are willing to pay for.
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I'm not sure of your point , Disney/Fox , Warner Media and Comcast/Sky make far more original content than Netflix.

Back catalogue is equally as important though for a successful service that people are willing to pay for.
Well, I guess it depends on how many people are attracted by that content. I does nothing for me. The Netflix Originals are the sole reason I subscribe to Netflix and I suspect a great many people have a similar view.
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Old 14-12-2018, 17:35   #4848
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Well, I guess it depends on how many people are attracted by that content. I does nothing for me. The Netflix Originals are the sole reason I subscribe to Netflix and I suspect a great many people have a similar view.
Plenty are attracted by the older content though OB as well as watching the newer content.
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Well, I guess it depends on how many people are attracted by that content. I does nothing for me. The Netflix Originals are the sole reason I subscribe to Netflix and I suspect a great many people have a similar view.
Look at the popular on Netflix section and trending now there is plenty of third party content just as their is originals so clearly many like watching it.
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Look at the popular on Netflix section and trending now there is plenty of third party content just as their is originals so clearly many like watching it.

But it all costs money - I pay more than enough for the tv I watch, without paying extra for things I might watch occasionally
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Old 15-12-2018, 23:48   #4851
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The fact that Netflix has just forked out $100m for the rights to show Friends for another year, illustrates the value that some older content does have.

In my opinion, the satellite/cable channels have greatly devalued older shows by their poor scheduling decisions. I expect the streamers in the future to behave more like terrestrial broadcasters and signpost certain older shows when similar new stuff becomes available.

We don't know the impact on Netflix yet on the loss of Disney/Fox content and whether the other Hollywood companies will also pull their stuff from the streamer.

Make the most of watching everything under one roof while it lasts, as in the near future we may need several streaming services to provide us with what we essentially get from Netflix today.

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Funny people keep mentioning about Sky losing content even though it’s parent company are predicted along with Disney to dominate global content spending.
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It's mixing two different things here.

Sky, as you know full well, is currently a pay tv company as well as a broadband and mobile provider.

Having your parent company be America's largest cable company as well as owning one of the major Hollywood studios, is a major advantage for Sky, no doubt about that at all. But if other companies remove their content from Sky's pay tv platform, that will have a massive negative impact on Sky's current pay tv service.

Comcast will use the Sky brand and resources to launch streaming services into as many countries as it can and I believe this is Sky's future, as a global streamer competing against Netflix, Disney et all, rather than as a traditional pay tv platform.
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Old 16-12-2018, 12:04   #4852
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If third party companies don't want to take Sky's money in the future that leaves Sky funds with which to increase its own original content.

I think the perfect purchase for Comcast would be Discovery this would allow it to strengthen in the documentaries genre and give even more varied content for its future aspirations.
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Old 16-12-2018, 19:14   #4853
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I agree that there will be further mergers within the media/tech sector, including perhaps the one you suggest.

But I but disagree with you about the impact, the loss of content on Sky's platform would have. I don't dismiss this as easily as you and even if its just one company (Disney/Fox) that pulls content from Sky, that is still 40% of all Hollywood films.

It is still cheaper to buy in someone else's content than making stuff yourself, especially with regards to drama.
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I agree that there will be further mergers within the media/tech sector, including perhaps the one you suggest.

But I but disagree with you about the impact, the loss of content on Sky's platform would have. I don't dismiss this as easily as you and even if its just one company (Disney/Fox) that pulls content from Sky, that is still 40% of all Hollywood films.

It is still cheaper to buy in someone else's content than making stuff yourself, especially with regards to drama.
I've already told you I don't buy into all this removal of third party content from platforms but I'll go along with you for now.

You are suggesting Disney/Fox , Warner Media , Comcast/Sky all go alone with streaming products direct to the consumer.

You then go on to discuss problems for Sky so what happens to Virgin and BT how do they survive ?

In TV the big global players will be the following in my opinion

Disney/Fox
Comcast
Warner Media
Amazon
Netflix
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I've already told you I don't buy into all this removal of third party content from platforms but I'll go along with you for now.

You are suggesting Disney/Fox , Warner Media , Comcast/Sky all go alone with streaming products direct to the consumer.

You then go on to discuss problems for Sky so what happens to Virgin and BT how do they survive ?

In TV the big global players will be the following in my opinion

Disney/Fox
Comcast
Warner Media
Amazon
Netflix
Apart from anything else, they will be offering bundles of SVOD services including those you mention, thus securing the desired content for BT and Virgin as well as for Sky.

I also think that over time, those programmes more than two or three years old will no longer be exclusive to those sites, enabling other streaming services to show them as part of their subscription offering. It won't happen immediately as these sites fill up with content and they try to establish themselves, but I think that will come eventually to maximise the monetisation of their content.

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Bundling SVOD services bet there's tons to be made on £5 - £10 subs.

Sounds like more wishful thinking to me.

Sky will have content of its own and it's parent company with which to monetise I'm not sure selling SVOD services will net you much.

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Bundling SVOD services bet there's tons to be made on £5 - £10 subs.

Sounds like more wishful thinking to me.

Sky will have content of its own and it's parent company with which to monetise I'm not sure selling SVOD services will net you much.
Of course it will, just as bundling all those hundreds of channels works for Virgin Media now.

Adding a range of SVOD services to Virgin Media, BT, etc under wholesale deals will maximise the income for the streamers, provide reduced cost options for the punters and ensure that there is plenty of content available on existing platforms.
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Amazon Prime £79 a year and includes many perks from Amazon how much of a cut of that do you expect them to give platforms ?
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Amazon Prime £79 a year and includes many perks from Amazon how much of a cut of that do you expect them to give platforms ?
Well, what if, as an example, Virgin had a deal with Amazon whereby those with the existing subscriptions offers would be able to access Prime through their Virgin Media boxes and new subscribers through Virgin were offered a lower rate, but without the 'perks' and without the Amazon channels? Just one idea, but I think that with the range of streaming services Virgin could offer, together with the existing packages that are available for now, this could be made to work.

I do not share your distopian views of the future!
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