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[coulsontom]

Originally Posted by Top banana

Have you got a BT phone line into your house?

2 phone lines (from when dial-up meant u couldn't use internet and phone simultaneously).

1 of them not used anymore tho, have virgin phone line.

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Originally Posted by smallclone

Again, I just don't see how you can say that. Most sports fans already have sky or virgin.

Sky: prices are going up
Virgin: worryingly left out of the loop

How does that equate with "better off?"

Excuse me, but someone said:

"sports fans are worse off"

I said they were not which is not the same as saying "better off".

Just look at the hard, cold facts.

For me, it's £114.55.

That can come down to £66.95 (with sky world and bt int and sport inclusive of offers) for the next 12 months. £50.95 for the first 6 months.
That's a saving of £667.20.
Try and tell me that's not a good deal

[Mad Max]

There's a lot wrong with all packages from Virgin, Sky & BT imo, the one that sticks in many peoples throats is the need to take a landline telephone subscription to get a decent deal on everything else, lets face it, nearly everyone has a mobile phone nowadays and the need for a landline has diminished greatly in recent years, i just wish that the suppliers would build a decent package to meet the needs of the customers instead of the other way about!

[Chad]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

There's a lot wrong with all packages from Virgin, Sky & BT imo, the one that sticks in many peoples throats is the need to take a landline telephone subscription to get a decent deal on everything else, lets face it, nearly everyone has a mobile phone nowadays and the need for a landline has diminished greatly in recent years, i just wish that the suppliers would build a decent package to meet the needs of the customers instead of the other way about!

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

There's a lot wrong with all packages from Virgin, Sky & BT imo, the one that sticks in many peoples throats is the need to take a landline telephone subscription to get a decent deal on everything else, lets face it, nearly everyone has a mobile phone nowadays and the need for a landline has diminished greatly in recent years, i just wish that the suppliers would build a decent package to meet the needs of the customers instead of the other way about!

Yes we rarely use our landline but yet every month we have to pay that bloody line rental for hardly no use at all.

Originally Posted by Mad Max

There's a lot wrong with all packages from Virgin, Sky & BT imo, the one that sticks in many peoples throats is the need to take a landline telephone subscription to get a decent deal on everything else, lets face it, nearly everyone has a mobile phone nowadays and the need for a landline has diminished greatly in recent years, i just wish that the suppliers would build a decent package to meet the needs of the customers instead of the other way about!

Virgin are advertising Broadband without a phone line in the papers at the moment

[coulsontom]

Originally Posted by denphone

Yes we rarely use our landline but yet every month we have to pay that bloody line rental for hardly no use at all.

This is true, in the future surely there will be no such thing as a landline. at least in urban outer-urban areas.

It wasn't long ago it was around £11, but only a few years have passed and its over £15.

[Lostlam]

Originally Posted by Top banana

Virgin are advertising Broadband without a phone line in the papers at the moment

VM have been like that since last year. As far as I am aware, they are the only company that offers broadband by itself, and don't force you to have a landline aswell.

[BexTech]

Originally Posted by Lostlam

VM have been like that since last year. As far as I am aware, they are the only company that offers broadband by itself, and don't force you to have a landline aswell.

Going back many years, I just had broadband and 'free' TV from Telewest and no phone line as I have a VoIP ATA and just paid for the odd few calls I made, with no monthly fee from VoIP provider. Was like that for almost 4 years, only reason now have phone line was moving and taking new services at a discount.

[Lostlam]

Originally Posted by BexTech

Going back many years, I just had broadband and 'free' TV from Telewest and no phone line as I have a VoIP ATA and just paid for the odd few calls I made, with no monthly fee from VoIP provider. Was like that for almost 4 years, only reason now have phone line was moving and taking new services at a discount.

Kl. You must have been an exception mate, as I know when I had VM installed a few years back, you had to have both.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...&contentID=870

Seen this article. Interesting reading.

[Chad]

http://www.digitaltveurope.net/54521...gin-talk-talk/

"BT Retail CEO Gavin Patterson said the firm was still open to doing wholesale deals for its forthcoming sports channels with Virgin Media and Talk Talk, but stressed its strategy wasn’t dependent on it.

Speaking at a BT Sport launch event in London this morning, Patterson said that talks were ongoing with Virgin and would “hopefully continue” in the coming weeks, but claimed it was difficult for the cable TV rival to do a “value proposition” until BT was able to announce details of its sport offering.

“We’ve had similar discussions with Talk Talk as we have with Virgin. Philosophically we’re not against, wholesale, we’d be open to it, it’s really about value – what our perception of the value of it is, and what their perception of the value is, and there’s a gap at the moment,” said Patterson.

Asked whether he could imagine a point where BT would simply walk away from wholesale discussions he added: “Our strategy is not dependent on wholesale. It’s not completely within our control – it’s whether or not we can find the right valuation between us and others. We couldn’t rely on it in that respect, so we’ve built a strategy, we’ve built a business plan that doesn’t necessarily depend on us wholesaling this.”


http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2013/...ort-goes-free/

"However, customers of Virgin Media and rival telco TalkTalk may not be able to receive it via their television services."

http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news...ootball-115800

"There are currently no plans to bring the channels to Virgin Media’s cable service."

http://recombu.com/digital/news/bt-s...st_M11546.html

"There's no word on whether Virgin Media subscribers will be able to access the BT Sport channels but it's looking unlikely."

Mmmmm....... Doesn't look great for the likes of Talk Talk, Virgin or Smallworld. Basically any TV provider where BT can't sell directly to the customer.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

This business with BT over its sports channels is starting to turn to blackmail from BT regarding VM customers. Just read there website and it is quite clear that BT are going on the own with this idea and VM customers are going to be left out.

I was under the impression that BT were having a deal with ITV, don't know how true this is.

[BexTech]

Originally Posted by Lostlam

Kl. You must have been an exception mate, as I know when I had VM installed a few years back, you had to have both.

There was quite a few of us broadband only or broadband and TV.

I set family up too with VoIP

It was possible for quite some while in xTW area were are in. Only the last couple of years and bit needed to take phone line.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

This business with BT over its sports channels is starting to turn to blackmail from BT regarding VM customers. Just read there website and it is quite clear that BT are going on the own with this idea and VM customers are going to be left out.

I was under the impression that BT were having a deal with ITV, don't know how true this is.

At the moment it looks like BT are happy to push on as they are. Wholesale deals are not essential.

There was a suggestion of an ITV deal about 8 months ago, but nothing came of it.

[MaverickJesus]

To be fair if they didn't have the ability to purchase and manage their own satellite EPG slots cutting Sky out as the middle man, it might not even have been on Sky.

It's no different to what Sky is doing with Atlantic, and what many other content providers have done before them.