Coronavirus

[jfman]

Should have locked down for longer and closed the schools in November.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by jfman

Should have locked down for longer and closed the schools in November.

And it would be of no surprise if a third lockdown is announced just after Christmas given the latest figures.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Why? Is every vestige of long standing British custom & culture to be sacrificed to the woke agenda?

Well said, sir.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by denphone

And it would be of no surprise if a third lockdown is announced just after Christmas given the latest figures.

Definitely won't be a surprise Den, all the health 'expert' bods have been harping on about it for a month . . . no point making plans for Easter either

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

Should have locked down for longer and closed the schools in November.

hasn't been a single case of it in our school.

And Lockdown? we haven't been out of it. Tier 3 is Lockdown by any other name.

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Originally Posted by Carth

Definitely won't be a surprise Den, all the health 'expert' bods have been harping on about it for a month :

Good, given their track record almost guaranteed not to happen then

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by Pierre

hasn't been a single case of it in our school.

And Lockdown? we haven't been out of it. Tier 3 is Lockdown by any other name.

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We just had our end of term newsletter and there were 8 cases in a smallish school of 800 pupils. Interestingly, my kids school (a secondary) was one of the lowest affected in the region. A local primary completely closed and there have been whole years off in other schools. Reading between the lines on the newsletter, they have one big happy hat on about the delayed opening and doing testing!

I think we have forgotten what the lockdown over the summer was like BTW - hardly any shops open, being able to exercise once a day only, etc. Tier 3 is definitely 'lockdown lite'

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

hasn't been a single case of it in our school.

And Lockdown? we haven't been out of it. Tier 3 is Lockdown by any other name.

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Good, given their track record almost guaranteed not to happen then

While some schools haven’t had cases the ONS data now has the highest prevalence in school age children. Communities can’t reduce the figures with such widespread mixing and as you suggest find themselves stuck in Tier 3 forever.

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Originally Posted by jonbxx

We just had our end of term newsletter and there were 8 cases in a smallish school of 800 pupils. Interestingly, my kids school (a secondary) was one of the lowest affected in the region. A local primary completely closed and there have been whole years off in other schools. Reading between the lines on the newsletter, they have one big happy hat on about the delayed opening and doing testing!

I think we have forgotten what the lockdown over the summer was like BTW - hardly any shops open, being able to exercise once a day only, etc. Tier 3 is definitely 'lockdown lite'

I think Pierre makes a valid point that for many the differences between tier 3 and 4 are negligible. I can go out for a meal (with one other household) venues close early and I can’t drink? Eh I’ll just stay in thanks. I’m not that big on in person non-essential shopping regardless of the pandemic and I still wouldn’t go for a haircut. My £12.99 clippers will serve me until I’m in tier 2 equivalent thanks.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

being able to exercise once a day only,'

That was never a stipulation, you could spend all day o/s if you wanted.

The only tangible difference between lockdown and Tier 3, is that all shops are allowed to open, and schools are open.

Originally Posted by jfman

While some schools haven’t had cases the ONS data now has the highest prevalence in school age children. Communities can’t reduce the figures with such widespread mixing and as you suggest find themselves stuck in Tier 3 forever.

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I think Pierre makes a valid point that for many the differences between tier 3 and 4 are negligible. I can go out for a meal (with one other household) venues close early and I can’t drink? Eh I’ll just stay in thanks. I’m not that big on in person non-essential shopping regardless of the pandemic and I still wouldn’t go for a haircut. My £12.99 clippers will serve me until I’m in tier 2 equivalent thanks.

Originally Posted by Pierre

That was never a stipulation, you could spend all day o/s if you wanted.

The only tangible difference between lockdown and Tier 3, is that all shops are allowed to open, and schools are open.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ay-from-others

1. Staying at home
You should only leave or be away from your home for very limited purposes:

shopping for basic necessities, for example food and medicine, which must be as infrequent as possible

one form of exercise a day, for example a run, walk, or cycle - alone or with members of your household

any medical need, including to donate blood, avoid injury or illness, escape risk of harm, or to provide care or to help a vulnerable person

travelling for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...tier-3-4757018

Everything you can do in Tier 3 that you couldn't do in lockdown...

... Get your hair and nails done

Personal care services are allowed to operate in Tier 3, so you can go to the hairdressers and see your beautician.

It means you can get treatments including botox and get a tattoo or a massage.

Do a workout

Gyms have reopened and the direct debits have been taken off hold, so there's no excuse for not getting back to those workouts. Leisure and sports facilities may continue to stay open, but group exercise classes (including fitness and dance) should not go ahead.

You should only exercise in a gym with members from your household.

Watch your child play football

Covid-19 secure organised sport is permitted, so that means grassroots football is back on.

Enjoy sport outside

Outdoor sports, including golf and tennis are allowed to continue in all tiers.

Take your children to their clubs and classes

All indoor covid-19 secure are back on, so that includes dance classes, swimming lessons and children's organised sports including gymnastics.

Go swimming

Leisure centres in Hull and the East Riding have reopened.

Go to a parent and toddler group

Parent and toddler groups – up to a maximum of 15 people can run in Tier 3. Under-fives do not count towards this limit. These cannot take place in private dwellings however.


Meet more people outdoors

In lockdown, we were limited to only meeting one other person from another household outdoors.

Under Tier 3 restrictions, we can now mix with up to six people outdoors. So you could meet five friends, from five different households outdoors – in a public place, but we still can't mix in private gardens.

Get married

Up to 15 people can attend your wedding. Receptions are not permitted.

After 9 months, I still dont personally know of anyone who has had it.
The "closest" I've got so far is a couple of pupils at the school my wife works at.
I obviously dont know either of them myself, I do know they both returned after two weeks.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ay-from-others



https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news...tier-3-4757018

Yes Sherlock, does it stipulate how long your daily exercise should be?

If you wanted to walk all day, you could.

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Originally Posted by Paul

After 9 months, I still dont personally know of anyone who has had it.
The "closest" I've got so far is a couple of pupils at the school my wife works at.
I obviously dont know either of them myself, I do know they both returned after two weeks.

x2

[Mad Max]

The lockdown in Wales worked well, didn't it.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

While some schools haven’t had cases the ONS data now has the highest prevalence in school age children. Communities can’t reduce the figures with such widespread mixing and as you suggest find themselves stuck in Tier 3 forever..

Liverpool City Region (population c900k) and Bristol (c700k) have been successful in dropping down to Tier 2. But how long they will stay their remains to be seen.

[jfman]

It may make me a sad individual, Hugh, but as someone without kids who doesn’t go to the gym or need my nails done there’s nothing on that list that appeals to me at all.

I’m just a bloke that goes to the pub once or twice a week with friends.

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by Paul

After 9 months, I still dont personally know of anyone who has had it.
The "closest" I've got so far is a couple of pupils at the school my wife works at.
I obviously dont know either of them myself, I do know they both returned after two weeks.

You’re lucky. Up to 5 for me now. Two in the US and now it’s running through my brothers family.

Still wonder if I had it late March. I got a bit fluey with a heavy chest and lost my sense of taste. My wife and younger daughter lost their taste too.