Football : The Scottish Football Thread

[colin25]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I think what Warsaw have done is quite honorable in asking Celtic to play a game to decide the tie. There was an article in The Daily Express stating that Warsaw have asked Celtic, But sadly, Celtic have said its nothing to do with them, and left it to FIFA. And they are still appealing.This reminds me of the Man Utd Game against Tottenham many years ago. Spurs clearly scored a goal. The Officals stated they did not see the game, yet the ball was clearly over the line. The following morning Sir Alex was asked if he would contact the FA to state, that he saw the goal was correct. He said it was up to the FA. Yes, it might not be the same scenrio. But l find it very sad. I always thought honesty was the best policy. But it wont effect the result

Arthur. You are rambling now.

As it has been pointed out...Celtic do not make the rules...if they did...they might be tempted to cheat.

Legia need to act like a "man", stop bringing their club into disgrace and accept that the only ones who have done wrong..is them...a stupid mistake can cost you a game.

I would have thought a tottenham supporter would recognise that point specifically

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Thought l would say this - Warsaw's appeal is tomorrow Wednesday.

[MalteseFalcon]

Said already, much as I would like to see Warsaw win it I am a realist and accept that their idiocy has cost them. And yes there may have been a difference between why the players were ineligible but still think a penalty for all instances should be applied. Either a fine for all cases or a 3-0 win for other team.

[colin25]

Originally Posted by MarkC1984

Said already, much as I would like to see Warsaw win it I am a realist and accept that their idiocy has cost them. And yes there may have been a difference between why the players were ineligible but still think a penalty for all instances should be applied. Either a fine for all cases or a 3-0 win for other team.

+1

[LondonRoad]

Originally Posted by MarkC1984

Said already, much as I would like to see Warsaw win it I am a realist and accept that their idiocy has cost them. And yes there may have been a difference between why the players were ineligible but still think a penalty for all instances should be applied. Either a fine for all cases or a 3-0 win for other team.

I agree that the punishment in this case is harsh. I don't agree that all ineligible players should be the same. Playing a suspended player has got to punished more severely than the many admin errors that crop up.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Watching the St Johnstone game with Celtic was quite entertaining. Three problems though, The first Celtic goal should have been a foul just outisde the box. St Johnstone should have had a penalty. And then the Oscar winning role was the Celtic penalty/ Red card. IF, that was a penalty, l will give up football. Agreed the Celtic player ran into the box, gets pushed by the St John player, the Celtic player goes two steps and then 'dives' to get the pen. Total joke. And yes, this is not a dig at Celtic, when l watch a game of football and 'any' teams, l believe in fair play in games. The ref needs glasses/ fairness.

[LondonRoad]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Watching the St Johnstone game with Celtic was quite entertaining. Three problems though, The first Celtic goal should have been a foul just outisde the box. St Johnstone should have had a penalty. And then the Oscar winning role was the Celtic penalty/ Red card. IF, that was a penalty, l will give up football. Agreed the Celtic player ran into the box, gets pushed by the St John player, the Celtic player goes two steps and then 'dives' to get the pen. Total joke. And yes, this is not a dig at Celtic, when l watch a game of football and 'any' teams, l believe in fair play in games. The ref needs glasses/ fairness.

For somebody who claims to like Celtic you seem to spend a lot of time negatively analysing them.

First goal a foul???? Even the Saints didn't claim that one.

imho the ref got the one important decision wrong, St J should have had a penalty. The ref clearly goes to a better optician than you..... two steps

[colin25]

Originally Posted by LondonRoad

For somebody who claims to like Celtic you seem to spend a lot of time negatively analysing them.

First goal a foul???? Even the Saints didn't claim that one.

imho the ref got the one important decision wrong, St J should have had a penalty. The ref clearly goes to a better optician than you..... two steps

I thought St Johnstone's penalty claim was one...I thought Celtic's one was a dive.

Once first goal goes in...game changed

[LondonRoad]

Originally Posted by colin25

I thought St Johnstone's penalty claim was one...I thought Celtic's one was a dive.

Once first goal goes in...game changed

I can see why you think their was a dive. I thought the push in the back was sufficient to deny him the chance to have a clean strike. The fall to the ground "enhanced" the penalty claim I don't think the slo-mo did him any favours.

I would have to guess that Neil McCann had a few quid on Celtic to get beat. I have never seen a "neutral" panelist so raging about a decision.

[Media Boy UK]

BBC: Celtic: Legia Warsaw's Champions League appeal bid fails.

Legia Warsaw's appeal against expulsion from the Champions League has been dismissed by Uefa, meaning Celtic will remain in the competition.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28753686

[Arthurgray50@blu]

London Road, Lets put it this way, you might as well give Celtic the title now, if they decisions like that. Its was a dive.

End of story.

[LondonRoad]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

London Road, Lets put it this way, you might as well give Celtic the title now, if they decisions like that. Its was a dive.

End of story.

Lets put it this way. Another negative judgement about the club you claim to like. Are you upset that Legia Warsaw's appeal failed Arthur?

[MalteseFalcon]

Watched the highlights at lunch. It may have been a penalty or it may have been a dive. Truth is, a different referee would have waved play on or booked the Celtic player for diving.

I just hope for a closer race this season rather than it being won by Christmas like it was last season.

[LondonRoad]

Originally Posted by MarkC1984

Watched the highlights at lunch. It may have been a penalty or it may have been a dive. Truth is, a different referee would have waved play on or booked the Celtic player for diving.

I just hope for a closer race this season rather than it being won by Christmas like it was last season.

I think there was sufficient contact to award the penalty so it would probably have been a bit unjust for a yellow card. Tuhe real mistake was failing to award the Perth saints a penalty. That would certainly have made the match more interesting if the pen had been converted. 1-1 and the momentum with the Saints would certainly made me ...erm twitchy.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

London Road, I believe in fairness in sport. IF, a player dives in the box - l dont give a damn who the club is. Its cheating.
If you watch the game agains, the St Johnstone player was tripped in the box - a penalty.

The Celtic player ran into the box, yes he was pulled, then the Celtic player went on then magically does an Oscar winning winning dive and gets the penalty - whats fair about that.

I believe that players know how to con the referee. To me it should be a red card offence for diving.

And l dont care if Warsaw failed - l believe in fairness in football. I gave up being a referee, as so many players were doing the 'dive'act. And it wasnt backed up by the leagues l played in.

If a Spurs player dives - then he should be red carded - simples. It should happen everywhere, and the club should fine the player for doing it.

In Scottish football, l see it lots of times. But some referee's dont have the bottle to send players off. Its just as bad in the EPL.