[Merged] Linksys & Ntl 10Meg SUX

Coolur · 27-06-2006, 22:45

Hi All

After upgrading to NTL 10Meg I have been dissapointed to discover that the speed has only ever managed 5 to 6Meg's max...

My tests have revealed that the culprit for the somewhat crippled 10Meg connection were down to my Linksys BEFSR81 V2 Router.... Take the Router out of line and up pop the speeds to 8/10 Meg.

I have looked through various posts regards what is a good router for use on 10Meg and see reference to other Linksys & Dlink products that work reliable.

I am going to presume that the problem with the Linksys BEFSR81 is that its WAN socket can not manage 10Meg!

Also I have looked at the config settings for the router and see no means of improving matters so I want to buy something that will work and be stable to.

What Router are you using on NTL 10Meg and do you get both near max speeds as well as stability with your router?

A router with Wireless access would be ok for me to as I have a Laptop thats equipped!

Thanks in advance for taking the time to comment.

Regards

Andy

MovedGoalPosts · 28-06-2006, 00:25

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Many users of Cable Forum seem to favour the linksys WRT54G or WRT54GS series of wireless router. Realistically any router desiigned to support the g standard wireless should have a WAN ethernet port capable fo the 10meg (or perhaps higher) internet connection.

micken · 28-06-2006, 10:40

The problem on the WRT54GS seems to be configuring the router to allow any LAN or WLAN connection to achieve the full 10MB. I am researching this and playing with settings. I know that I get reliable and consistent download and upload speeds that approach the maximum for a 10MB connection whith one pc directly connected to the cable modem.

On initial set up I seemed to have 2MB+ download and 470KB upload from both wired and wifi connected pc's. I now have 4MB+ download and 200KB upload on all pc's. If I take the router out of the equation and wire a pc directly to the modem I get the full 10MB service.

My challenge is to get the full 10MB through the router to all pc's and I'm looking at Quality of Service information and researching as much as I can.

There are loads of threads on the forum at www.linksysinfo.org relating to this issue. Very few definitive comments and answers though.

Coolur · 28-06-2006, 14:27

Lo Guys

Having upgraded to NTL 10 Meg I was dissapointed to discover that my Linksys BEFSR81 V2 router would only operate at 5.5 to 6 meg max, whilst a direct connection from modem to PC gave me near max speeds.

Well having read various messages in the Forum regards routers that were good for 10Meg Broadband I have ordered the WRT54GS.

Now I feel that I have made a bad move and Linksys somewhat sux's!

Whilst pondering over the new router arriving I decided to speak to a technical support guy at Linksys and to my horror he informed me that all of the Linksys range of router products (inc Befsr81) are limited to 6Meg throughput (WAN to LAN speed) and that I would get no improvement with a WRT54GS !!!!

I think its safe to say that I have been somewhat clumsy with my purchasing decision and as yet I am still no further on in finding a Cable router that does produce near max throuput speeds!

Hopefully this post may put a few people straight on the issue of 10 Meg broadband via routers, it will be interesting to read the replies to!

Regards

Andy

Graham M · 28-06-2006, 14:51

I installed that Model of Linksys at a mate's house for them last week and it was managing 10MBit just fine...

Mr J · 28-06-2006, 15:05

I have a WRT54G and I know a few other people on here have this router and manage 10mbit no probs.

I get a nice health 1180 KB/ps from my newsgroups.

micken · 28-06-2006, 15:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr J

I have a WRT54G and I know a few other people on here have this router and manage 10mbit no probs.

I get a nice health 1180 KB/ps from my newsgroups.

1180KB=1.18MB, is that download through one port, and are we talking bytes or bits?

There seems to be a full range of speeds that people achieve with this router, but no definitive answers about achieving the higher speeds.

I'm wondering if the appropriate settings are any more apparent in alternative frameware.

---------- Post added at 15:55 ---------- Previous post was at 15:41 ----------

I mean't firmware of course

ZrByte · 28-06-2006, 15:57

The uppercase KB implies BYTES, not bits so this is equal to 9.4mb, sounds pretty reasonable to me.
I am only on 4mb with my Linksys WRT54G so I cant comment on mine, however, I know several people using the exact same router as me on 10mb with no problems.
Though If you plan to use p2p you will need to install a 3rd party firmware to stop all the port forwarding problems.

micken · 28-06-2006, 16:18

I can confirm that I'm getting 9.4mb with just one pc connected directly to the cable modem, it's a stable and consistent connection.

Just can't get the throughput with the router connected and can't figure how?

Mr J · 28-06-2006, 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by micken

1180KB=1.18MB, is that download through one port, and are we talking bytes or bits?

There seems to be a full range of speeds that people achieve with this router, but no definitive answers about achieving the higher speeds.

I'm wondering if the appropriate settings are any more apparent in alternative frameware.

---------- Post added at 15:55 ---------- Previous post was at 15:41 ----------

I mean't firmware of course

yes I am talking about speeds of 1.18MB/ps, sometime get's a bit higher going up to 1.2 odd.

I have the WRT54G router pluged plugged in to a 10/100 switch with my DC connected, 2 XP pro machines and a linux box on there as well. I also have 2 laptops connected wireless and all run fine and dandy.

Now obviously I do not have everything running at the same time, not enough fingers and toes to press all the buttons, but the only time I see speeds decrease is when a few machines are downloading at the same time which is pretty obvious as the bandwith is shared between them all.

I'm thinking about looking in to the DD-WRT firmware that is available and flashing my router, but that's a project for another day!!

micken · 28-06-2006, 16:33

Thanks for clarification Mr J.

I'm going to post on www.linksysinfo.org where there seems to be lots of info. Have done exhaustive research there but few answers. Hopefully one of their gurus will have a suggestion, or two.

Regards

Mick

28-06-2006, 19:27

The WRT54G has a 10/100 full-duplex DSL port meaning that it can easily handle the cable modems highest speed. The BEFSR81 only has a 10Mb port and also will only operate at Half-duplex meaning the best you will ever get is between 6 / 7Mb.

I have been using a WRT54G for ages and works absolutley fine for 10Mb Broadband.

Hope this helps,

micken · 28-06-2006, 22:43

[quote=I have been using a WRT54G for ages and works absolutley fine for 10Mb Broadband.[/quote]

Any comments or advice on settings?

Regards

Mick

Coolur · 29-06-2006, 14:58

Hi all....

Today I received my Linksys WRT54GS V5.1 and my tests so far have revealed a big improvement over the BEFS81 router I was using...

DESPITE what Linksys technical support had told me regards all there router products being limited to 6Meg I can conclude this is not true!

There is a small reduction in speed on my 10Meg NTL connection via the router inline but I am able to see throuput speeds in excess of 8Meg.

I think its now fair to say that Linksys tech support Sux!

Regards

Andy

SnoopZ · 29-06-2006, 19:49

That router is perfect and can manage FAR more than 10mbit. Good choice.

No reduction in speed for me using that router as im always maxed out.