Britain outside the EU - Page 27

Angua · 08-02-2021, 15:41

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

So they're not down then...

UK exports to the EU are down 68%.

What may not be down are the imports from the EU to the UK..

pip08456 · 08-02-2021, 17:03

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Originally Posted by Angua

UK exports to the EU are down 68%.

What may not be down are the imports from the EU to the UK..

The Port of Dover would disagree.

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A month on since the end of the Brexit transition period, the Port of Dover is pleased to already be welcoming over 90% of the freight traffic volumes typical of this time of year following the significant stockpiling experienced before Christmas.

http://www.doverport.co.uk/about/new...the-por/13575/

1andrew1 · 08-02-2021, 17:17

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

So they're not down then...

Well, according to the report, the lorries from the EU normally return with British goods on their return trips. However, 65-75% of the lorries are returning with nothing! So ports will see the same numbers of lorries but fewer will be carrying goods in both directions.

mrmistoffelees · 08-02-2021, 17:37

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Originally Posted by pip08456

The Port of Dover would disagree.

http://www.doverport.co.uk/about/new...the-por/13575/

Unless you’re extrapolating the traffic from
Dover to be representative all ports (which is what the article refers to) then I fail to see the relevance ?

pip08456 · 08-02-2021, 18:48

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Unless you’re extrapolating the traffic from
Dover to be representative all ports (which is what the article refers to) then I fail to see the relevance ?

Dover is the main conduit for EU exports/imports.

1andrew1 · 09-02-2021, 09:23

A bit more than temporary disruption. This is not the levelling up the north of England was promised. The owner tells it straight. "“All we have had is bullshit from the government, promises that haven’t been kept."

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Yorkshire lobster exporter says Brexit costs have forced it to close

Government has not been straight with fishing industry, says Sam Baron of Baron Shellfish in Bridlington

A lobster exporter who is winding up his 60-year-old family business has blamed the government for failing to be honest about Brexit red tape and hidden costs.

Sam Baron, who worked alongside his father to set up Baron Shellfish in Bridlington, east Yorkshire, said the government had failed to be straight with the fishing industry.

Industry experts said that Baron Shellfish, the first lobster-tank business in Europe’s largest shellfish port, appears to be the first big exporter to have announced its closure.

Speaking from Bridlington on Monday, where he is in the process of dismantling hundreds of lobster crates, Baron said: “All we have had is bullshit from the government, promises that haven’t been kept. I am winding up the business while I still have enough to pay redundancy to my staff.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...s-forced-close

papa smurf · 09-02-2021, 09:34

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

A bit more than temporary disruption. This is not the levelling up the north of England was promised. The owner tells it straight. "“All we have had is bullshit from the government, promises that haven’t been kept."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...s-forced-close

Like many people i like lobster and i love cheap lobster. have these people thought of the Uk market ie sell it cheep at home create a market for it..

These folk have right idea https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...ames-x80q6kxcg

1andrew1 · 09-02-2021, 10:06

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

Like many people i like lobster and i love cheap lobster. have these people thought of the Uk market ie sell it cheep at home create a market for it..

These folk have right idea https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...ames-x80q6kxcg

Sell it cheap and you make a loss. And the UK market is smaller than the EU. They will have thought about these things over many sleepless nights. It's a big deal for a local family business to make its staff redundant.

Sephiroth · 09-02-2021, 10:13

For those beyond the paywall: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...aign=DM1334686

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EU poised to reject two-year extension to Northern Ireland grace period

.... EU figures also accused the UK of exploiting an international backlash against Brussels over its aborted move to erect a hard vaccine border on the island of Ireland.

They are even further up themselves than calling their foreign minister the "High Representative".

papa smurf · 09-02-2021, 10:48

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Sell it cheap and you make a loss. And the UK market is smaller than the EU. They will have thought about these things over many sleepless nights. It's a big deal for a local family business to make its staff redundant.

You can't ask for max price when there is no market for your fish, you need to find new markets and price accordingly.
Plus we are in lockdown so restaurants are shut.

1andrew1 · 09-02-2021, 11:02

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

You can't ask for max price when there is no market for your fish, you need to find new markets and price accordingly.
Plus we are in lockdown so restaurants are shut.

Exactly. That's why I was keen to see and extension to the withdrawal agreement for another year so it didn't happen during the pandemic.

jonbxx · 09-02-2021, 11:03

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

They are even further up themselves than calling their foreign minister the "High Representative".

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I'm reserving judgement until I hear what the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster and the Lord President of the Privy Council have to say about it

**Chris** · 09-02-2021, 12:57

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Originally Posted by jonbxx

I'm reserving judgement until I hear what the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster and the Lord President of the Privy Council have to say about it

An interesting comparison. Does the office of High Representative of the EU in London directly embody nearly a thousand years of developing political culture and accountability, in much the same way as these other offices do?

Sephiroth · 09-02-2021, 13:10

Just got my GHIC (which was requested before Chrimbo).

They could at least have matched the blue to the new passport!

1andrew1 · 09-02-2021, 13:16

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

For those beyond the paywall: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...aign=DM1334686

They are even further up themselves than calling their foreign minister the "High Representative".

The Government seems to be reaping what it sowed here. It had the opportunity to extend the withdrawal agreement so that we didn't end up with a last-minute deal which had to be delivered during the worst pandemic in living memory. But it decided against it.