Netflix/Streaming Services
14-04-2019, 20:49
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
And yet that's exactly what some people do now. As subscriptions are not tied to one year contracts, clearly their business models do allow for people to dip in and out as they wish.
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There’s a difference between building a business model around it and a small proportion of subscribers doing something.
Netflix are going to have a hard time paying their debt mountain, something like $200 per subscriber, if the average subscriber is only taking the service for 2-3 months a year. The bread and butter of all these businesses is all year round subscriptions.
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14-04-2019, 21:31
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
And yet that's exactly what some people do now. As subscriptions are not tied to one year contracts, clearly their business models do allow for people to dip in and out as they wish.
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I don't buy it, Den. Netflix now has plenty of original material on it and that is certainly all I ever watch, apart from the occasional film.
I don't pay good money for the purpose of watching repeats, and judging by the amount of criticism the BBC has received over the years for the number of repeats it shows, I would imagine many people agree with me.
Those who like watching repeats need look no further than the UKTV channels.
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Incidentally ... while I stand by my view that broadcast TV will still be alive and kicking 10 years from now, personally I’ve not watched a minute of broadcast TV in the last several months now. I’m entirely consumed by Netflix and Amazon Prime, the latter in particular at the moment because they’ve just released a ton of box sets of stuff I’ve never seen but have long wanted to. I’ve binged my way right through SHIELD, I’m working on Arrow, BSG and Farscape, and the family’s all watching Glee. Back on Netflix I’m working my way through The Umbrella Academy and my watch list is as long as my arm but none of it is child friendly so my viewing hours are limited.
Ironically it’s my kids who turn the Freesat box on... when they have nothing particular in mind they still turn to CBBC.
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15-04-2019, 07:57
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by Chris
Incidentally ... while I stand by my view that broadcast TV will still be alive and kicking 10 years from now, personally I’ve not watched a minute of broadcast TV in the last several months now. I’m entirely consumed by Netflix and Amazon Prime, the latter in particular at the moment because they’ve just released a ton of box sets of stuff I’ve never seen but have long wanted to. I’ve binged my way right through SHIELD, I’m working on Arrow, BSG and Farscape, and the family’s all watching Glee. Back on Netflix I’m working my way through The Umbrella Academy and my watch list is as long as my arm but none of it is child friendly so my viewing hours are limited.
Ironically it’s my kids who turn the Freesat box on... when they have nothing particular in mind they still turn to CBBC.
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I do agree that once you get into Netflix and Amazon, it draws you in!
Although my 8 year old grandson does still watch live TV such as Nikelodeon, he does more often go to Netflix, and in fact Netflix is practically all the 13 year old will watch.
Our youngest, at 4, is either watching DVDs or Netflix most of the time, as well as some kids' stuff on the Roku!
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There’s a difference between building a business model around it and a small proportion of subscribers doing something.
Netflix are going to have a hard time paying their debt mountain, something like $200 per subscriber, if the average subscriber is only taking the service for 2-3 months a year. The bread and butter of all these businesses is all year round subscriptions.
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To be honest, most people do not change subscriptions all the time, but a minority do. I think most people will subscribe to a small number of services that meet their needs.
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15-04-2019, 13:16
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
Has anyone ever had a discounted deal from Netflix when trying to cancel? I've not heard of anything so it is more impressive that their subscriber base is so high before they've even offered discounts.
Apart from the 30 day new customer trial, they do not give much away. The best I got was a 12 month free offer with a mobile phone contract last year.
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16-04-2019, 00:59
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by jfman
There’s a difference between building a business model around it and a small proportion of subscribers doing something.
Netflix are going to have a hard time paying their debt mountain, something like $200 per subscriber, if the average subscriber is only taking the service for 2-3 months a year. The bread and butter of all these businesses is all year round subscriptions.
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That maybe the case when Disney and others have launched their services all across the globe, but that's years away. Netflix still has the field largely to itself for the next few years and will have added millions more full paying subs in that time to bring that debt down.
Netflix latest results are tomorrow, so we'll see what growth they've had.
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AT&T have sold their Hulu stake back to Hulu. Be interesting to see whether Comcast holds on to its 30% stake now, or whether it sells to Disney giving them 100% control.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...mpression=true
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17-04-2019, 23:45
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
Anyone else had the continuous circle of death with the Netflix app over the last few days. Have to reboot to fix it.
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18-04-2019, 05:29
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Anyone else had the continuous circle of death with the Netflix app over the last few days. Have to reboot to fix it.
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Its fine with us cupcakes.
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21-04-2019, 10:52
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21-04-2019, 11:13
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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21-04-2019, 21:26
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd
Anyone else had the continuous circle of death with the Netflix app over the last few days. Have to reboot to fix it.
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How are you accessing Netflix, cupcakes? Through a V6, TiVo box, smart TV, Roku stick, Amazon Fire stick or what? And have you tried a re-boot?
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23-04-2019, 11:14
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
Virgin Media to launch Amazon Prime app.
https://www.libertyglobal.com/wp-con...ith-Amazon.pdf
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...-video-1203961
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Starting this summer, Virgin Media will be the first of Liberty Global’s European operations to integrate the Amazon Prime Video app into its Ultra HD V6 set-top box, making the Amazon service available to around 4 million Virgin Media TV customers.
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Analysts have said that the integration of streaming services into pay TV platforms helps the latter to provide more ease of use to consumers and reduce customer churn. For the streaming services, it is an opportunity to become more easily accessible on traditional pay TV services and possibly gain new subscribers.
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23-04-2019, 11:30
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
This is good if people don't have the app installed on their TV or another means of using it.
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23-04-2019, 11:42
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
Certainly a step in the right direction, IMO.
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23-04-2019, 12:26
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
Might entice me - should be worth it for The Grand Tour alone.
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23-04-2019, 12:28
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Might entice me - should be worth it for The Grand Tour alone.
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Unlimited photo storage is great too.
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