VOD : Linear is old tech - on demand is the future

[muppetman11]

OB Please quote where I have said nothing will change ?

Of course things will move over IP in fact Sky already delivers a great deal over IP as well as satellite.

Where we differ is I believe linear will still be around for many years sure the amount of channels will dwindle but broadcasters will still have a presence but maybe with a couple of channels as opposed to six or seven.

The BBC have bought UKTV to close down the UKTV linear channels oh dear where do you think this stuff up.

The BBC said in a statement: "Following these changes, the entertainment channels will continue to operate under the UKTV brand out of UKTV’s offices and BBC Studios will look to grow investment into UK programming, including original content, for the channels it will own."

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

OB Please quote where I have said nothing will change ?

Of course things will move over IP in fact Sky already delivers a great deal over IP as well as satellite.

Where we differ is I believe linear will still be around for many years sure the amount of channels will dwindle but broadcasters will still have a presence but maybe with a couple of channels as opposed to six or seven.

The BBC have bought UKTV to close down the UKTV linear channels oh dear where do you think this stuff up.

Watch this space, muppetman! Taste the coffee.

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Originally Posted by jfman

Please provide clear economic analysis instead of conjecture. It would save me time separating the two.

I am sure you are quite capable of googling, and making comparisons with the rather extreme comments you have been making in your posts, jfman!

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I am sure you are quite capable of googling, and making comparisons with the rather extreme comments you have been making in your posts, jfman!

Well this is my problem with your claims, Old Boy. I have clearly asked you to frame your statements and ground them in economics yet you resort to asking me to google? You do it. I’m asking you to evidence statements that I know you cannot.

I am very well capable of googling. I’ve spent some years (and some money!) studying economics so you are doing a disservice to my education by claiming I could have just spent three years reading opinion pieces.

Prove me wrong! Please. Avoid saying “I think” and “obviously” in your replies. That’s low hanging fruit for my reply.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

OB Please quote where I have said nothing will change ?

Of course things will move over IP in fact Sky already delivers a great deal over IP as well as satellite.

Where we differ is I believe linear will still be around for many years sure the amount of channels will dwindle but broadcasters will still have a presence but maybe with a couple of channels as opposed to six or seven.

The BBC have bought UKTV to close down the UKTV linear channels oh dear where do you think this stuff up.

Exactly MM.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

Well this is my problem with your claims, Old Boy. I have clearly asked you to frame your statements and ground them in economics yet you resort to asking me to google? You do it. I’m asking you to evidence statements that I know you cannot.

I am very well capable of googling. I’ve spent some years (and some money!) studying economics so you are doing a disservice to my education by claiming I could have just spent three years reading opinion pieces.

Prove me wrong! Please. Avoid saying “I think” and “obviously” in your replies. That’s low hanging fruit for my reply.

I have an economics qualification too, jfman, but I'm not writing a thesis for you. I have already explained my reasoning in my previous posts. I accept that you disagree with me. But I believe you are wrong!

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I have an economics qualification too, jfman, but I'm not writing a thesis for you. I have already explained my reasoning in my previous posts. I accept that you disagree with me. But I believe you are wrong!

Can I ask what your economics qualification is, please?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I have an economics qualification too, jfman, but I'm not writing a thesis for you. I have already explained my reasoning in my previous posts. I accept that you disagree with me. But I believe you are wrong!

You always believe everybody else is wrong but your track record over the years does not exactly get the bookies running for cover with your way out predictions.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

You always believe everybody else is wrong but your track record over the years does not exactly get the bookies running for cover with your way out predictions.

You cannot assess my track record on forecasts for the future when the future hasn't yet happened...

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Can I ask what your economics qualification is, please?

Mine's only an 'A' level, but I feel sure jfman has a first class honours degree with distinction!

Doesn't make him right, though. Professionals often disagree amongst themselves.

I do understand his point, though; Netflix is amassing huge debts, but they have a plan to deal with this in the long term. This plan includes massively expanding the geographical areas of the world that it serves, reducing its new commissions when they judge that they have sufficient original or exclusive material to compete effectively, and selling on the older commissions to other services. The thing that may scupper that plan is if new streaming services come along that lead to significantly declining subscriber numbers as it tries to expand within their existing geographical areas and beyond. jfman seems to think that Netflix will suffer disproportionately from this, but I disagree. Subscribers are far more likely to ditch their satellite and cable subscriptions to their pay tv channels than ditch an excellent streaming service like Netflix.

Providing a separate AVOD service may provide the solution for them, in that case. However, that could lead to a further decline in subscribers for its SVOD service, so it's not straight forward.

It's easy for us to comment from the sidelines, but Netflix has proved very successful to date, and from where I stand, I do think they know what they are doing. Misjudgements can occur, of course, but the key for Netflix is to watch carefully what is going on in the market they understand and modify their plans as necessary.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I have an economics qualification too, jfman, but I'm not writing a thesis for you.

Which is just as well, because

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Mine's only an 'A' level,

which means you’re about 5 years of university study short of being qualified to write a thesis on anything ...

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Chris

Which is just as well, because



which means you’re about 5 years of university study short of being qualified to write a thesis on anything ...

I know that, but I was bringing jfman's expectations down to Earth.

[OLD BOY]

What a great idea this is - to bring all the streaming services to one place. This is just what we need to enable us to find the vast array of content available on our video on demand services.

I would like to think that Virgin have a mind to offer a similar option on their service, but they will need to move quickly if platforms such as this are not to take away customers.

https://technuovo.com/browse-search-...ith-playpilot/

EXTRACT

PlayPilot is a streaming aggregator, which collates all the available content from the services you pay for into one handy location. Available as an app or website, PlayPilot is already available in the Nordics with almost 100,000 registered users. It’s not currently available in the UK, although you can visit the website to get a sneak peek, it’s set to release this summer.

I’m pretty sure the Amazon Fire TV stick does all of this already. There’s catch-up apps for the PSB channels, a Netflix app and the ability to subscribe to a few other streaming services as well. Searching for content returns results from whichever services you have subscribed to

[ozsat]

The Amazon Fire TV will only include programmes in the search results if they are available as Amazon add ons.

If you download providers own app and subscribe - which is often cheaper - then their own app is NOT included in the search results.

I think the main extras like BBC, ITV etc- are all included - but not third-party providers.

Originally Posted by Chris

I’m pretty sure the Amazon Fire TV stick does all of this already. There’s catch-up apps for the PSB channels, a Netflix app and the ability to subscribe to a few other streaming services as well. Searching for content returns results from whichever services you have subscribed to

I will double check - I don’t regularly use my stick any more as we have all the apps we need directly on our TV now - but I’m pretty sure Netflix results will come back along with the Amazon ones.

[muppetman11]

I have Netflix results come up on search through my Amazon Firestick.