VOD : Linear is old tech - on demand is the future

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Raider999

Said it before, most films these days are utter tosh.

Agree. Talking Pictures will show you some decent stuff !

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Agree. Talking Pictures will show you some decent stuff !

Especially for us oldies..

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by denphone

All in the eye of the beholder l say..

Sorry Den, you're wrong. I'm fed up with superhero movies and shows being catagorised as SciFi, they are not! They are SciFan!

[denphone]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Sorry Den, you're wrong. I'm fed up with superhero movies and shows being catagorised as SciFi, they are not! They are SciFan!

l am certainly not going to argue with you pip..

[Horizon]

The forthcoming launch of the BBC/ITV/CH4 streaming service is another clear indication that linear tv, or at least linear pay tv is "evolving".

There are now clear signs that linear tv, or at least linear pay tv channels may bite the dust and it may happen sooner than we all think.

What would happen if the main terrestrial broadcasters removed all their offshoot channels from Sky and VM? I think it would kill the pay tv services off.

If Disney do as they suggested last week and remove all their content from Sky, I don't see how the traditional pay tv companies can continue in their present form.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Horizon

The forthcoming launch of the BBC/ITV/CH4 streaming service is another clear indication that linear tv, or at least linear pay tv is "evolving".

Project Kangaroo was certainly a great hit was it not?

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Originally Posted by Horizon

There are now clear signs that linear tv, or at least linear pay tv channels may bite the dust and it may happen sooner than we all think.

l somehow doubt it Horizon.

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Originally Posted by Horizon

What would happen if the main terrestrial broadcasters removed all their offshoot channels from Sky and VM? I think it would kill the pay tv services off.

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Not a chance in a month of Sundays IMO.

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Originally Posted by Horizon

If Disney do as they suggested last week and remove all their content from Sky, I don't see how the traditional pay tv companies can continue in their present form.

Any proof of that? as again l would say that is pie in the Sky to pardon a pun.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Horizon

The forthcoming launch of the BBC/ITV/CH4 streaming service is another clear indication that linear tv, or at least linear pay tv is "evolving".

There are now clear signs that linear tv, or at least linear pay tv channels may bite the dust and it may happen sooner than we all think.

What would happen if the main terrestrial broadcasters removed all their offshoot channels from Sky and VM? I think it would kill the pay tv services off.

If Disney do as they suggested last week and remove all their content from Sky, I don't see how the traditional pay tv companies can continue in their present form.

I'm not sure where this obsesession with Sky and Disney comes from , Disney sells it's content to Sky , BT , Virgin and others.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

Project Kangaroo was certain a great hit was it not?

Project Kangaroo was killed off in an error of judgement by Ofcom. This has put the main terrestrials back by a few years, bit it's nice to see now that Ofcom have changed their position.

The new streaming service planned along the lines of Britbox is the way to go, and will ultimately replace the conventional broadcast channels. It's no lnger a case of if, but when.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Project Kangaroo was killed off in an error of judgement by Ofcom. This has put the main terrestrials back by a few years, bit it's nice to see now that Ofcom have changed their position.

The new streaming service planned along the lines of Britbox is the way to go, and will ultimately replace the conventional broadcast channels. It's no lnger a case of if, but when.

You can believe that if you want to but many won't.

The trouble with your hymn book OB its always missing quite a few of the pages.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

You can believe that if you want to but many won't.

The trouble with your hymn book OB its always missing quite a few of the pages.

The pages of the future have yet to be written...

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The pages of the future have yet to be written...

Not sure why these new linear channels have come or are coming soon when they should be streaming

Originally Posted by denphone

Project Kangaroo was certainly a great hit was it not?

Kangaroo never got off the drawing board, because for some inexplicable reason Ofcom refused regulatory permission for the BBC to be involved.

Had it gone ahead we might by now have had a standardised, high-quality iPlayer offering full on-demand functionality for all the UK’s public service broadcasters, plus a viable home-grown platform to compete with the extremely well-funded American operations like Netflix and Amazon Prime.

As it did not, we have hardware being sold with a random assortment of on-demand services built in and the ability of end users to add or remove them from those devices varies enormously (Channel 4, for example, is still withholding All4 from Freesat devices due to an ongoing dispute over carriage fees - the service was automatically removed from boxes about 2 months ago. This behaviour, arguably, should be forbidden as part of C4’s public service obligations but that’s another discussion entirely).

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Raider999

Not sure why these new linear channels have come or are coming soon when they should be streaming

I think for the coming three to five years, conventional type channels will be launched with streaming/on demand alternatives available (unless the company providing the content is stuck in the last century, like UKTV!).

At some point after that these channels will be in decline and new carriage deals will be concentrating on the on demand and streaming content.

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Originally Posted by Chris

Kangaroo never got off the drawing board, because for some inexplicable reason Ofcom refused regulatory permission for the BBC to be involved.

Had it gone ahead we might by now have had a standardised, high-quality iPlayer offering full on-demand functionality for all the UK’s public service broadcasters, plus a viable home-grown platform to compete with the extremely well-funded American operations like Netflix and Amazon Prime.

As it did not, we have hardware being sold with a random assortment of on-demand services built in and the ability of end users to add or remove them from those devices varies enormously (Channel 4, for example, is still withholding All4 from Freesat devices due to an ongoing dispute over carriage fees - the service was automatically removed from boxes about 2 months ago. This behaviour, arguably, should be forbidden as part of C4’s public service obligations but that’s another discussion entirely).

I agree with most of that, but the ability to withhold channels or on demand content where the platform operator won't agree to pay the price is important. If this was forbidden as you suggest, it would mean that platform operators could simply not pay, or pay a reduced price, and the supplier would have to provide the content regardless.

Maybe that's not the arrangement you had in mind, but I cannot think of an alternative.

[heero_yuy]

Quote from The Guardian:


Britain’s growing appetite for services such as Netflix and Amazon Prime has seen the number of subscribers to streaming services overtake those signed up to pay-TV providers such as Sky, BT and Virgin Media for the first time.

The total number of UK subscribers to the three most popular online streaming services in the UK – Netflix, Amazon and Sky’s Now TV – hit 15.4 million at the end of the first quarter this year. At the same time, the number of subscribers to pay-TV packages reached 15.1 million, according to a report published by media regulator Ofcom.

The milestone marks a major competitive shift in the TV industry as the rise of the global internet firms and changing viewing habits, especially among younger viewers, is putting increasing pressure on the UK’s traditional pay-TV and free-to-air broadcasters including BBC, ITV and Channel 4.

The Ofcom report found that the total pay-TV revenues of Sky, Virgin, BT and TalkTalk fell for the first time in the almost a decade in 2017 to £6.4bn.

As per the thread title.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

As per the thread title.

That's right, heero_guy. I think most have now conceded that streaming services will become the most popular means of accessing TV content, but there are still those who cannot bring themselves to believe that ultimately, the existing broadcast channels will wither on the vine as it will no longer make financial sense to provide them.