General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018) - Page 157

jfman · 04-10-2018, 11:48

Nice to see my updates making it onto other forums that, ironically, those posting them made the effort to get me removed.

Is the V+ sound drop out on the MPEG 4 SD channels more or less frequent than on the HD ones? Really I’m asking if it’s a new problem are just an extension of the old one.

Raider999 · 05-10-2018, 23:10

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Originally Posted by RobboEdin

WOW You’re making it worse.
So, not 20 3 hour sports matches over 8 days, let’s say 24, given extra sport and some in HD.
You’ll watch it all when you come back?
I think you’re now desperately trying to justify your assertion that 1TB is not enough and failing!

Yes I will, probably over the coming week.

Not failing at all in my opinion which I have - you obviously do not share that view and are denigrating my replies to suit your own opinions.

By the way others have also posted that the disk size is inadequate.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Unless he just fast forwards to the bits he wants to see, and then deletes. I don't know how he also has time to post on cable forum, though!

I suppose remote in one hand and keying in with the left....

No watch in normal speed.

Plenty of time to post as I was on holiday last week - try to keep up.

I can multitask so not as difficult as you seem to think.

OLD BOY · 05-10-2018, 23:55

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Originally Posted by Raider999

Yes I will, probably over the coming week.

Not failing at all in my opinion which I have - you obviously do not share that view and are denigrating my replies to suit your own opinions.

By the way others have also posted that the disk size is inadequate.

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No watch in normal speed.

Plenty of time to post as I was on holiday last week - try to keep up.

I can multitask so not as difficult as you seem to think.

You must be cross-eyed by now.

jfman · 06-10-2018, 01:34

Raider999 can you let us know if the V6 recalculates percentages as you add recordings.

Raider999 · 06-10-2018, 11:29

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Originally Posted by jfman

Raider999 can you let us know if the V6 recalculates percentages as you add recordings.

As previously stated, I was away for the week so cannot do that.

I did note that, despite everything recording, I ended up with more free space than expected.

I believe this is probably rounding when calculating how much space was released upon deleting a HD recording, it usually gives me an extra 2% free space - this of course may have been 1.6%?

spiderplant · 06-10-2018, 14:02

If you really to know how much space UHD recording takes, make a very long manual recording (maybe 20 hours). Then delete it and see how much the gauge goes up by.

jfman · 06-10-2018, 19:35

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Originally Posted by spiderplant

If you really to know how much space UHD recording takes, make a very long manual recording (maybe 20 hours). Then delete it and see how much the gauge goes up by.

In progress

jfman · 07-10-2018, 06:37

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Originally Posted by jfman

BT Sport 4K is broadcasting at fixed bitrate 27.1Mb/sec or 3.38 MB/sec. A two hour broadcast would be 24.34 gigabytes.

A 12 hour manual recording on BT Sport 4K uses 16% on my V6 (reporting as 139.86 GB).

OLD BOY · 07-10-2018, 10:17

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Originally Posted by jfman

A 12 hour manual recording on BT Sport 4K uses 16% on my V6 (reporting as 139.86 GB).

So that indicates each hour long UHD programme taking up 1.3% of recording space.

Wow, you won't get many UHD recordings on a 1TB box for that. This is why I thought all UHD material would be on demand or we'd have access to cloud 'recording'.

A bit of a disappointment really, but not unexpected.

denphone · 07-10-2018, 10:37

Perhaps Virgin should be planning for a 5TB box..

jfman · 07-10-2018, 11:25

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

So that indicates each hour long UHD programme taking up 1.3% of recording space.

Wow, you won't get many UHD recordings on a 1TB box for that. This is why I thought all UHD material would be on demand or we'd have access to cloud 'recording'.

A bit of a disappointment really, but not unexpected.

Well what we don’t know is what plans are longer term - in practice a variable bitrate will be deployed at some point averaging a lower bitrate and that could give efficiencies of 20-30% reducing the recording space. Streaming services use a lower bitrate than VM.

spiderplant · 07-10-2018, 20:40

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Wow, you won't get many UHD recordings on a 1TB box for that.

75 hours. How much timeshifting do you want to do???

jfman · 07-10-2018, 21:06

I'm not sure I had 25 E180 tapes back in the day. That said there was the glorious 'long play' to extend it.

Raider999 · 07-10-2018, 21:20

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Originally Posted by jfman

Raider999 can you let us know if the V6 recalculates percentages as you add recordings.

It appears to recalculate the free space every time a recording starts, adding it's expected amount to the total used.

OLD BOY · 08-10-2018, 14:00

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Originally Posted by spiderplant

75 hours. How much timeshifting do you want to do???

It's not a lot, Spider. 75 hours equates to just over four series of 16 programmes each.

If they expected us to record so little, why did they increase the number of tuners on the V6?

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Originally Posted by jfman

Well what we don’t know is what plans are longer term - in practice a variable bitrate will be deployed at some point averaging a lower bitrate and that could give efficiencies of 20-30% reducing the recording space. Streaming services use a lower bitrate than VM.

I do hope that things will improve longer term, but we are talking about the here and now. What are we supposed to do in the meantime? Such limited ability to record is counter to the way the Tivo and V6 have been promoted.

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Originally Posted by jfman

I'm not sure I had 25 E180 tapes back in the day. That said there was the glorious 'long play' to extend it.

I had about 50, mostly 4-hour tapes, and it was never enough.

I've got it about right now with two V6s and a video recorder which can record up to 500 hours in HD. With the additional 240 hours of HD recordings on the V6s, that just about satisfies my requirements.