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It's good to know the English would rather see Scottish political discourse stuck for 40 years rather than focusing on schools, the economy, health and moving forward inside or outside the UK.
Tell me when the SNP cared about the bits underlined?
I remember Andrew Neil's question to Nicola Sturgeon, around the time there was a scare about President Trump apparently taking an interest in our NHS and how they would do their upmost to stop the former president from getting his hands on it, but Andrew Neil rhymed off a list of issues with the NHS in Scotland, and asked wee Nicola if it shouldn't be Donald Trump that the NHS needs protecting from but the SNP and Nicola Sturgeon...
The SNP progress their manifesto and stand for election just like any other party. It would be the UK Government blocking such progress for an entirely arbitrary reason, in your provocative proposal until an entirely arbitrary date, not the SNP.
I’m loving your use of “arbitrary” across several threads........have you just found out what it means?
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Tell me when the SNP cared about the bits underlined?
I remember Andrew Neil's question to Nicola Sturgeon, around the time there was a scare about President Trump apparently taking an interest in our NHS and how they would do their upmost to stop the former president from getting his hands on it, but Andrew Neil rhymed off a list of issues with the NHS in Scotland, and asked wee Nicola if it shouldn't be Donald Trump that the NHS needs protecting from but the SNP and Nicola Sturgeon...
There is always a video...
Yet where are the opposition to capitalise on this? The SNP are on course to absolutely rinse them in May by a margin that makes leaving the EU and Biden's emphatic win over Trump look tiny.
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I’m loving your use of “arbitrary” across several threads........have you just found out what it means?
No, it's just a common thread for the evening that people are making arguments without fully thinking them through which makes it easy to throw "arbitrary" around.
Yet where are the opposition to capitalise on this? The SNP are on course to absolutely rinse them in May by a margin that makes leaving the EU and Biden's emphatic win over Trump look tiny.
In the grand scheme of things, they could win a million seats, they still couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, they're fecking horrible, all they give a toss about is separation that leads to nowhere but ruin.
In the grand scheme of things, they could win a million seats, they still couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, they're fecking horrible, all they give a toss about is separation that leads to nowhere but ruin.
Stephen Glover accepts the downside of economic arguments:
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That said, I would caution against making too much of the economic arguments.
Didn’t Brexit teach us that many people voted to leave the EU even though they feared it might make them poorer? People’s hearts can sometimes count more than their wallets.
His recommendation seems to be to accept a referendum but to delay it until Boris - hugely unpopular in Scotland - is no longer PM and the issues with Brexit are no longer making headlines. This way, the referendum is less likely to go in favour of devolution. But not to delay it until 2055 which he sees as too far off. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...k-genteel.html
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
My late grandad was born in Glasgow (Gorbals), but grew up in Edinburgh.
He fought in WWII to defend the UK and not Scotland, he would be spinning in his grave at how the SNP are attempting to destroy the Union and bankrupt Scotland.
I would like to know how the SNP will fund all of Scotland needs with 5.46 million people, bearing in mind roughly 1/2 of these will not be taxpayers. (bearing in mind London has a population of 9.3 million).
They would lose their free prescriptions to start, would they be allowed to keep and use Stirling, I guess the Army they would have to pay for, and we should protect the waters around the island.
But what about the border, Scotland would be in neither the UK nor EU, so would need some kind of ID to enter the UK to access the ports to Europe in the South.
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My late grandad was born in Glasgow (Gorbals), but grew up in Edinburgh.
He fought in WWII to defend the UK and not Scotland, he would be spinning in his grave at how the SNP are attempting to destroy the Union and bankrupt Scotland.
I would like to know how the SNP will fund all of Scotland needs with 5.46 million people, bearing in mind roughly 1/2 of these will not be taxpayers. (bearing in mind London has a population of 9.3 million).
They would lose their free prescriptions to start, would they be allowed to keep and use Stirling, I guess the Army they would have to pay for, and we should protect the waters around the island.
But what about the border, Scotland would be in neither the UK nor EU, so would need some kind of ID to enter the UK to access the ports to Europe in the South.
I expect the SNP will follow the Vote Leave playbook. Don't focus on likely practicalities as that doesn't win votes. Instead, focus on the higher level emotional issues of sovereignty.
I think Sturgeon should be arrested shot then given a fair trial in England.
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
Knowing my grandad, tarred and feathered more like
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My late grandad was born in Glasgow (Gorbals), but grew up in Edinburgh.
He fought in WWII to defend the UK and not Scotland, he would be spinning in his grave at how the SNP are attempting to destroy the Union and bankrupt Scotland.
I would like to know how the SNP will fund all of Scotland needs with 5.46 million people, bearing in mind roughly 1/2 of these will not be taxpayers. (bearing in mind London has a population of 9.3 million).
They would lose their free prescriptions to start, would they be allowed to keep and use Stirling, I guess the Army they would have to pay for, and we should protect the waters around the island.
But what about the border, Scotland would be in neither the UK nor EU, so would need some kind of ID to enter the UK to access the ports to Europe in the South.
Well I would hope so, as it is in Scotland after all....
As I think Damien mentioned last year - in the event of devolution, England/Wales will be retaining Edinburgh though.
Glasgow would insist on it...
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The polls, which now show a consistent lead for independence, have followed a bleak year for the United Kingdom in which it has suffered one of the highest coronavirus death tolls and worst recessions of any country in the world.
It has also coincided with Britain's exit from the European Union, which a clear majority of Scots voted against.
The combination of anger at Brexit, distrust of Boris Johnson (who has a long record of offending Scots) and the UK government's shambolic handling of the coronavirus pandemic have all conspired to create the perfect environment for the independence movement.
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