U.S Election 2020 - Page 18

**Hugh** · 27-09-2020, 15:18

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

And remember the Russians are backing Joe

yeh, but no...

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Russia 'trying to denigrate Joe Biden' in bid to meddle in US election, says top security official

Russia is attempting to discredit Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden ahead of the US election, America's counterintelligence chief has said.

William Evanina, director of the US National Counterintelligence and Security Center, said officials were also concerned about "ongoing and potential activity by China and Iran" in relation to the election.

He accused the Kremlin of conspiring against Mr Biden's bid for the White House, while Beijing and Tehran are said to want Donald Trump voted out of office.

I think you must be part of the Trump Campaign (or perhaps we should call you "Fancy Bear" instead of "Papa Smurf"?) - making stuff up that’s the opposite of what’s actually happening.

papa smurf · 27-09-2020, 17:49

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Originally Posted by Hugh

yeh, but no...

I think you must be part of the Trump Campaign (or perhaps we should call you "Fancy Bear" instead of "Papa Smurf"?) - making stuff up that’s the opposite of what’s actually happening.

I'm just an impartial observer with no ties to the American political system or Russia.

**Maggy** · 27-09-2020, 18:08

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Originally Posted by Mr K

It's par for the course, Reagan wasn't exactly compos mentus and Trump declines by the day if that's possible.

They really need to put an age limit on US Presidents.

Yes let's have 18-25 year olds in charge..

1andrew1 · 27-09-2020, 20:34

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

I'm just an impartial observer with no ties to the American political system or Russia.

If you're impartial observer, why are all your criticisms exclusively levelled at Joe Biden and never at Donald Trump?

papa smurf · 27-09-2020, 22:27

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

If you're impartial observer, why are all your criticisms exclusively levelled at Joe Biden and never at Donald Trump?

Trump has been accused of all sorts of things and come out squeaky clean,i feel it's been done to death and got nowhere,so not worth pursuing, biden on the other hand is well worth looking into especially as he never seems to know what day it is or where he is etc, but nothing i do or say can influence the election that's a matter for the American people, if it helps i think trump's hair looks stupid

Sephiroth · 27-09-2020, 23:28

Trump is trying to rig the presidential election.

1andrew1 · 28-09-2020, 00:31

BREAKING: The New York Times is reporting that Donald Trump has not paid income tax in ten out of the last 15 years and only paid £590 in 2016. Trump has denied the allegations. http://news.sky.com/story/donald-tru...laims-12084054

**Mick** · 28-09-2020, 01:50

Would you look at that, no Russian money like all the haters said would be there in his tax returns. Thanks NYT for the nothing burger though.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Trump is trying to rig the presidential election.

Based on what evidence?

You and others have been told to stop posting unsubstantiated claims. If you are going to make such wild claims. Source it.

TheDaddy · 28-09-2020, 07:30

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Thing is most religions have a strong moral code, be it Jewish, Catholic, Muslim. Donald doesn't fit it with any of them. Even some of the evangelical base are seeing him for what he is - a very immoral man.

Really, you think it immoral that a man has paid more for sex over the last fifteen years than he has paid in tax?

nomadking · 28-09-2020, 08:21

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

BREAKING: The New York Times is reporting that Donald Trump has not paid income tax in ten out of the last 15 years and only paid £590 in 2016. Trump has denied the allegations. http://news.sky.com/story/donald-tru...laims-12084054

Any business that involves high start up costs, such as property building and development, is always going to pay low taxes in the shorter term.
A normal business will pay less tax if it invests heavily in something. Nothing unusual, and the same for everybody else. If you start up a physical shop, restaurant , etc, the initial cost of setting things up will impact the tax paid. In future years the idea is those costs are not there, and you then pay more tax.

Is it really asking too much for people to understand basic business operating principles?

downquark1 · 28-09-2020, 08:27

Yeah paying little tax doesn't necessarily mean there is foul play. Just that the business isn't making much profit. BUT this plays into something Trump hates and that's people talking about how he isn't as rich as he pretends to be.

**Chris** · 28-09-2020, 08:30

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Any business that involves high start up costs, such as property building and development, is always going to pay low taxes in the shorter term.
A normal business will pay less tax if it invests heavily in something. Nothing unusual, and the same for everybody else. If you start up a physical shop, restaurant , etc, the initial cost of setting things up will impact the tax paid. In future years the idea is those costs are not there, and you then pay more tax.

Is it really asking too much for people to understand basic business operating principles?

Apparently it is.

Trump isn’t a ‘normal business’, and he isn’t a self-employed consultant who paid no tax because he bought a new computer and office furniture last year. He’s a multi-millionaire owner of multiple businesses, and it is being alleged that he is co-opting the operating losses of some of his businesses to reduce his personal tax bill.

He is on record as saying that shenanigans designed to reduce his tax liability to ludicrous levels make him “smart”.

1andrew1 · 28-09-2020, 08:30

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Originally Posted by Mick

Would you look at that, no Russian money like all the haters said would be there in his tax returns. Thanks NYT for the nothing burger though.

So, do you believe these returns to be accurate then? Trump says they're faked.

**Damien** · 28-09-2020, 08:38

I think this is exactly what everyone was expecting from these returns weren't they? Constant losses from his businesses.

Sephiroth · 28-09-2020, 08:57

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Originally Posted by Mick

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Based on what evidence?

You and others have been told to stop posting unsubstantiated claims. If you are going to make such wild claims. Source it.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Trump is trying to rig the presidential election.

For a start:

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinio...mn/3345059001/

It's general knowledge. Your unbounded 'love affair' with Trump is a great puzzle. I admire several things he's done and achieved, but rigging the election is unforgivable.