UK Intelligence report in to Russian interference in UK Elections/Scottish Referendum
21-07-2020, 15:27
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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Your not suggesting some will try and fabricate evidence are you
Any hoo we now have the clear evidence that the brexit vote was as i expected totally legitimate.
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but . . . but . . there's no evidence that there isn't any evidence, which proves the point that there might be evidence we've got no evidence of . . . evidently
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21-07-2020, 15:30
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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but . . . but . . there's no evidence that there isn't any evidence, which proves the point that there might be evidence we've got no evidence of . . . evidently
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you sound like keir starmer
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21-07-2020, 15:47
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
I have evidence of foreign interference in our 2016 Brexit referendum and it seemed to be perfectly fine when it suited the Remainers, former U.S President Barack Obama threatening back of queue on a leave result. If that wasn't foreign interference in plain sight then the Russians just didn't get their foot in the door fast enough.
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21-07-2020, 15:53
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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No evidence eh,well that's that then.
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Nigel Farage demands serious apologies from arch Remainers as he waves Russia report
The Brexiteer hit out after a long-awaited probe into alleged Russian interference in British democracy said it would be "difficult - if not impossible" to assess whether any such attempts had been successful. Mr Farage tweeted: “So, no evidence of Russian interference in the referendum. Some serious apologies are due. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/13...ferendum-putin
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No, per the article, we never asked the question. Perhaps we followed the mantra "Don't ask questions you don't like the answer to!"
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21-07-2020, 15:54
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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No, per the article, we never asked the question. Perhaps we followed the mantra "Don't ask questions you don't like the answer to!"
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we could use some of that on here
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21-07-2020, 16:29
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
So where is the evidence that anybody did anything untoward? If somebody claims X committed a burglary, it doesn't seem too much to ask the what, when, and where in connection with it. There isn't even a "somebody did X", it's a "Russia did something, we don't know what, but they must have". We can't be expected to agree or disagree with something, when it's not possible to be told what that something is meant to be. How can we judge any supposed effect and influence of a non-specified action.
What exactly was meant to be investigated? Was there a specific thing to be investigated? If you had been asked to investigate, where would you start? There's not even an "X happened, who was responsible". There is no "X" identified.
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21-07-2020, 16:29
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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No, per the article, we never asked the question. Perhaps we followed the mantra "Don't ask questions you don't like the answer to!"
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That could be unfair to the Government as it suggests a malign intent. Negligence and/or incompetence should be considered too
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21-07-2020, 16:49
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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That could be unfair to the Government as it suggests a malign intent. Negligence and/or incompetence should be considered too
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Fair shout.
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21-07-2020, 16:56
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
Again, nobody wants to ask why the government "didn't ask" about Brexit referendum interference when it asked about interference in other referendums.
If the government had asked and no evidence was found, that'd be great - we could put the debate to bed right now, but by not asking the question they've left it open for debate much longer. Even if you're a staunch leaver and 100% believe there to be zero interference, you should still be pissed off at the government cocking up here as it means us remoaners are still going to go on about it.
It could have ended, but it didn't. Now you just have to ask why.
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21-07-2020, 17:04
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Again, nobody wants to ask why the government "didn't ask" about Brexit referendum interference when it asked about interference in other referendums.
If the government had asked and no evidence was found, that'd be great - we could put the debate to bed right now, but by not asking the question they've left it open for debate much longer. Even if you're a staunch leaver and 100% believe there to be zero interference, you should still be pissed off at the government cocking up here as it means us remoaners are still going to go on about it.
It could have ended, but it didn't. Now you just have to ask why.
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That wouldn't have stopped the Remain side, Nothing but total overturning of the democratic decision would do that.
At least with the usual conspiracy theories(eg 5G and Covid), there is a chance to disprove or prove it. Until somebody can actually come up with the "X" in "X happened, who was responsible", there is nothing that could be proven or disproven. Has anybody come up with an "X" of any substance and effect?
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21-07-2020, 17:22
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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Has anybody come up with an "X" of any substance and effect?
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We could ask our intelligence agencies if Russia interfered. Crazy thought, I know.
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21-07-2020, 17:35
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
So is the thread title correct? Was/is Labour complicit with Russian interference in the 2019 UK General Election?
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21-07-2020, 17:36
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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We could ask our intelligence agencies if Russia interfered. Crazy thought, I know.
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And yet you have no issue with Obama helping your side with his threat, I will give you a clue, that was Foreign interference too!!!
There should have been no foreign interference by any country allied or not, yet your side wheeled him out and he stood there with his stupid threat, how many people did he influence to vote Remain???
It should never have been allowed, yet it was totally fine with your side.
Total hypocrites.
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So is the thread title correct? Was/is Labour complicit with Russian interference in the 2019 UK General Election?
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Changed.
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21-07-2020, 17:45
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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We could ask our intelligence agencies if Russia interfered. Crazy thought, I know.
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What exactly is meant to have taken place? What unexplained things are meant to have been that noticeable? It's a case of "the bogeyman done it", "done what", "erm don't know, he just did". There is zero evidence of anything having taken place, so getting into who was responsible, is more than a little bit premature.
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21-07-2020, 18:26
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Re: UK Intelligence report in to Russian interference in UK Elections/Scottish Refere
BREAKING NEWS!
"This is staggering – the UK didn't know that Russia was going to invade Scotland because it never sought to ask!
We now know why.
They had never specifically instructed MI5, MI6 and GCHQ - the intelligence and security agencies tasked with protecting the UK - with looking at precisely this issue."
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