Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels
22-07-2018, 22:21
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016
Pathetic
Paramount (Freeview) is on 124 and 187
Lifetime (Freeview) is on 125 and 208
True entertainment (Freeview) is on 126 and 189
Premier sports is on 127 and 551
Your tv (Freeview) is on 128 and 218
4 music (Freeview) is on 129 and 337
Free sports (Freeview) is on 130 and 553
Sky sports mix is on 131 and 520
Vice (Freeview) is on 191 and 219
Yoo moo (Freeview) is on 248 and 739
Love nature (Freeview) is on 249 and 293
So what this about, why just leave it blank, duplicate in random order serious, majority are all free to air
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VM created a load of "Parking" channels to allow them to launch all the new channels before the UKTV channels were switched off. There is still the possibility the free UKTV channels might return at some stage. If they don't the respective "Parking " channel will be closed.
With Premier & Freesports, SSM the extra channel permits Player TV customers to view the channels. At the end of the free period for Premier these will likely revert to their slots in the 500 range.
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22-07-2018, 22:45
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#212
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Re: VM loses UKTV channels
Another forum member has pointed out that the Sky basic channels are due to be renewed in the not too distant future.
He went on to say that if the UKTV channels are still missing. Sky could spot an obvious weakness in a competitors package and decide to exploit it by massively increasing the price of their channels.
VM then have the choice to either accept ridiculously inflated prices or go through a repeat of the UKTV farce. If it came to the deadline without a carriage agreement, VM may well have to go back to UKTV with their tail between their legs.
If the UKTV channels don't return before the Sky deal is up and the Sky channels are removed again, this would significantly weaken the VM platform. Take away the channels that can be obtained FTA and what would they have to offer?
What could they replace them with? The only channels of note that I can think of are MTV Classics, Disney HD and more from the Love Nature, Moozoo stable. Then it's a trip to the bargain basement for Sky1 +1, Pick +1 and True Movies +1!
Does anyone know when the actual date is for the Sky carriage deal to be renewed?
Oh and this time they would be able to remove the Sky Sports channels as Ofcom removed the rate card for Sky Sports saying that it was for the market to decide. I'm not sure about the position regarding the Sky Cinema channels.
Perhaps this may be one of the reasons why VM have started their own sports channels in the ROI. I suppose they could resolve any rights issues and stick these on as a replacement, the same with Virgin Media One, Two and Three. This would be more problematic as some of their material is ITV content.
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22-07-2018, 23:37
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#213
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
Last edited by Ddonald2016; 23-07-2018 at 00:02.
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22-07-2018, 23:49
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#214
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Re: VM loses UKTV channels
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Cheap dross? Is that what you call CSI Miami, Suits, Gilmore Girls, Sleepy Hollow, Wyonna Earp, Six, Aftermath? Just some of the programmes on Paramount Network next week.
Compare that with Death in Paradise, Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries, Murdoch Mysteries, The Coroner, New Tricks, Taggart, Judge John Deed, Dalziel & Pascoe, Doctor Blake Mysteries, Rebus and Father Brown, which are examples of UKTV programming over the whole week from Alibi, W and Drama. Harrow is new, so I won't pass judgement on that, but I reckon just the Paramount Network on its own, with its additional films on screen this coming week, does rather better than those three UKTV channels combined.
I agree that the UKTV shows were not bad when they were first shown, but they have been done to death now. They should all be on Freeview, in my humble opinion.
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Admittedly, some of the shows on Paramount are good but its a free channel elsewhere and catch up is available on My5
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22-07-2018, 23:58
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016
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We want Virgin Media to keep all of the UKTV channels for paying customers. Millions of people all over the world will use those channels including myself. With these channels being replaced there are no way for Virgin Customers to watch repeats of The Bill and Casualty. These are only available on Drama and Watch.
If you want our channels to be possibly saved, please sign this petition and share it as much as you can.
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Thank goodness for that, watching repeats of The Bill and Casualty, oh dear...
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23-07-2018, 02:53
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Re: VM loses UKTV channels
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
Another forum member has pointed out that the Sky basic channels are due to be renewed in the not too distant future.
He went on to say that if the UKTV channels are still missing. Sky could spot an obvious weakness in a competitors package and decide to exploit it by massively increasing the price of their channels.
VM then have the choice to either accept ridiculously inflated prices or go through a repeat of the UKTV farce. If it came to the deadline without a carriage agreement, VM may well have to go back to UKTV with their tail between their legs.
If the UKTV channels don't return before the Sky deal is up and the Sky channels are removed again, this would significantly weaken the VM platform. Take away the channels that can be obtained FTA and what would they have to offer?
What could they replace them with? The only channels of note that I can think of are MTV Classics, Disney HD and more from the Love Nature, Moozoo stable. Then it's a trip to the bargain basement for Sky1 +1, Pick +1 and True Movies +1!
Does anyone know when the actual date is for the Sky carriage deal to be renewed?
Oh and this time they would be able to remove the Sky Sports channels as Ofcom removed the rate card for Sky Sports saying that it was for the market to decide. I'm not sure about the position regarding the Sky Cinema channels.
Perhaps this may be one of the reasons why VM have started their own sports channels in the ROI. I suppose they could resolve any rights issues and stick these on as a replacement, the same with Virgin Media One, Two and Three. This would be more problematic as some of their material is ITV content.
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It was announced on 12 May 2014 that a new 5 year carriage agreement with Sky had been agreed with Virgin Media, so VM have about 10 months to play with.
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23-07-2018, 04:48
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Re: VM loses UKTV channels
Ah well,at least we have BT Sport UHD to look forward to on July 30th
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23-07-2018, 04:53
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Re: VM loses UKTV channels
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
Well there are all the ITV channels..Vera,Foyle,ETC..Pity about Murdoch Mysteries though. Not a BBC show as far as I'm aware.
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Some decent content there.
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23-07-2018, 07:32
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10 yrs same company 😁
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Re: VM loses UKTV channels
When my husband retired we dropped packages. One reason he could cope was Yesterday channel was still offering better content than History. Now we are back to the shoddy History channel with the Samsung TV not offering UKTVPlay as an app.
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23-07-2018, 08:04
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Re: VM loses UKTV channels
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Originally Posted by denphone
Some decent content there.
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Too recent and I'll miss the next new Murdoch.
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23-07-2018, 08:10
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Re: VM loses UKTV channels
The publicity is about as bad as we could have hoped for it was even on the BBC news at 10pm on BBC One last night
VM said they want box sets like Fawlty Towers
UKTV saying they want more money than was offered
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23-07-2018, 08:33
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Re: VM loses UKTV channels
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Originally Posted by Gavin-D
The publicity is about as bad as we could have hoped for it was even on the BBC news at 10pm on BBC One last night
VM said they want box sets like Fawlty Towers
UKTV saying they want more money than was offered
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And if BBC are now publicly supporting UKTV's stance, that rules out the BBC archive OD rights anytime soon. Doesn't put VM in a great position, the social media storm seems to suggest viewers want UKTV more than they do Virgin.
I can't say as I ever really "watch" UKTV, but they're staple channels that Virgin feels like a worse platform for not having. Time for some serious head-banging and for this to be resolved sooner rather than later.
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23-07-2018, 08:49
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#223
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Re: VM loses UKTV channels
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Originally Posted by Mr K
Seems a lot of VM customers disagree with you OB. There's hundreds of threads on this subject of the official forum.
People have different tastes which may surprise you,, maximum choice is best, we're not getting that atm, with VM.
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I didn't say that we should not have maximum choice. What I said was that the replacement content was not 'cheap dross' in comparison.
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23-07-2018, 09:17
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Re: VM loses UKTV channels
It would be interesting to know:
- how many people who have Pay TV have the same TV setup and tuned into Freeview as a backup, just in case
- how many people who have Pay TV end up mainly watching channels they can definitely receive through an aeriel for free
(i.e. it would definitely work in their premises, not just in theory, as some people have likes of local geography, buildings that stop signal being watchable)
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23-07-2018, 09:45
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Re: VM loses UKTV channels
Last one out turn off the lights, 2 hour wait on the phone for cancellations, Online chat offline, crash and burn for VM I am afraid.
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