Florida Shooting: 17 Students Shot dead in another Mass Shooting in the U.S - Page 16

**Mick** · 27-02-2018, 23:19

Wow, we have gone far and wide from not only the topic but the statement of More blacks being executed than whites, which just isn't true as per the numbers of more White criminals executed over the last few decades.

1andrew1 · 27-02-2018, 23:23

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Originally Posted by Mick

Wow, we have gone far and wide from not only the topic but the statement of More blacks being executed than whites, which just isn't true as per the numbers of more White criminals executed over the last few decades.

No one has said that more blacks are executed than whites so on that we can all agree.

What I believe has been said without reading every post again is that a higher percentage of the black population is executed than the white population.

**Maggy** · 28-02-2018, 08:52

I believe we have gotten quite a way off topic..

**Paul** · 28-02-2018, 13:55

Agreed, we have.
We clearly are not going to agree on this, so I think its time this got back to the topic.

1andrew1 · 28-02-2018, 19:19

Shocking, I hope the party steps up and expels him.

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Republican congressman suggests Jews could have saved themselves from Holocaust if they were armed
A Republican congressman has suggested Jewish people killed in the Holocaust could have saved themselves if they had been armed.
Don Young made the remarks as he attempted to argue against stricter gun control laws in the US, which he implied would make Americans less safe.
“How many millions of people were shot and killed because they were unarmed? Fifty million in Russia,” he told a conference in Juneau, Alaska. Mr Young, who is also a board member on the National Rifle Association (NRA), added: “How many Jews were put in the ovens because they were unarmed?”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8232721.html

**Hugh** · 28-02-2018, 20:12

Seems legit...

**Hugh** · 28-02-2018, 21:11

Should be interesting to see the reaction to this Trump statement.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...process-second

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President Trump on Wednesday voiced support for confiscating guns from certain dangerous individuals, even if it violates due process rights.

“I like taking the guns early like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.

**Damien** · 28-02-2018, 21:16

Let's see what actually happens. My first thought is that it's just talk and even if it weren't it's almost certainly unconstitutional to give anyone the power to confiscate legally owned guns without due process.

However it's promising if something does happen.

**Hugh** · 01-03-2018, 10:34

**Paul** · 01-03-2018, 14:31

The NRA didnt kill anyone.

I dont really see why people are suprised they defend the ownership of guns, that is one of their purposes.

Its a bit like attacking the AA or RAC for defending peoples right to own a car.

**Damien** · 01-03-2018, 14:56

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Originally Posted by Paul M

The NRA didnt kill anyone.

I dont really see why people are suprised they defend the ownership of guns, that is one of their purposes.

Its a bit like attacking the AA or RAC for defending peoples right to own a car.

People attack the NRA because they actively opposing meaningful legislation on guns. If you set yourself up as the opposition then people will oppose you in turn.

It doesn't help how aggressive the NRA are either. The AA will oppose fuel duty raises and the like but they think drivers who've had licences revoked should have them reinstated. The idea to arm teaches has been a pet project of the NRA for years purely because more it further embeds the concept of gun ownership as a means of protection against other guns.

**Hugh** · 01-03-2018, 17:18

It also helps sell more guns...

As the old saying goes - “it takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun, said the person trying to sell two guns."

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Originally Posted by Paul M

The NRA didnt kill anyone.

I dont really see why people are suprised they defend the ownership of guns, that is one of their purposes.

Its a bit like attacking the AA or RAC for defending peoples right to own a car.

If the RAC or the AA lobbied the government to lessen safety features on cars, or to allow people to drive cars without a licence or insurance, I would attack the RAC or the AA.

**Paul** · 01-03-2018, 19:51

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Originally Posted by Hugh

[/COLOR]If the RAC or the AA lobbied the government to lessen safety features on cars, or to allow people to drive cars without a licence or insurance, I would attack the RAC or the AA.

So are the NRA lobbying for less restrictions, or simply opposing more ?

Mr K · 01-03-2018, 19:56

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Originally Posted by Pierre

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With a semi-or modified to full - automatic assault rifle, victims in double figures is easily achieved.

Cripes, wouldn't want to meet you on a dark night

1andrew1 · 01-03-2018, 20:19

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Originally Posted by Paul M

So are the NRA lobbying for less restrictions, or simply opposing more ?

The NRA is lobbying for fewer restrictions.