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Old 25-05-2022, 09:02   #2416
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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It's (almost certainly) Sue Gray day - here's what you can expect

Number 10 is braced for the publication of Sue Gray's full report into parties in Downing Street and Whitehall during the coronavirus lockdown.

It is likely to include damaging further details about what went on, potentially including the names of some of those who attended gatherings.

It is expected that the report will be handed to Number 10 this morning. Downing Street have said they will publish the document swiftly - which means, barring any last-minute hitches, it could be in the public domain within hours.

Boris Johnson will then face Keir Starmer at PMQs at noon, and if the report has been published, make a statement to MPs in the Commons immediately after.

A Downing Street news conference is also expected later in the day, and the prime minister is scheduled to address the 1922 Committee of backbench Tories this evening.
https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...-turn-12593360
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Old 25-05-2022, 09:18   #2417
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

It's arrived https://news.sky.com/story/partygate...kdown-12619559
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Sky being made to look justifiably stupid by calling that early.

That’s the problem with Sky believing what they read on twatter
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Get a life.

I want to hear what the government is doing to curb rising cost of living. I don’t need to read something that I already know about. Starmer can only say so much too, given he is still under criminal investigation for Beergate.
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

The birthday party ironically looks tamer than the leaving do photo ITV leaked.
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Old 25-05-2022, 12:35   #2421
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

For anyone who was hoping for killer conclusion, the Sue Gray report is an utter damp squib. You have to deduce (the otherwise obvious) unwritten conclusion that Boris allowed the breach of Covid regulations.
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Get a life.

I want to hear what the government is doing to curb rising cost of living. I don’t need to read something that I already know about. Starmer can only say so much too, given he is still under criminal investigation for Beergate.
I think Johnson is less triggered by the report than his supporters are.

It's possible to want good governance and for the government to address the cost of living crisis.
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For anyone who was hoping for killer conclusion, the Sue Gray report is an utter damp squib. You have to deduce (the otherwise obvious) unwritten conclusion that Boris allowed the breach of Covid regulations.
It's not great for him obviously, some bad stuff in there, but not a killer blow. Everything always seems to fall just short of a killer blow to leave him wounded but in place.

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How terrible, photographed in the same room as some sandwiches and pop.
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It's not great for him obviously, some bad stuff in there, but not a killer blow. Everything always seems to fall just short of a killer blow to leave him wounded but in place.
Labour's dream, a wounded PM in place with the next enquiry about misleading Parliament still to come.
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

For those interested, the report is here.

https://assets.publishing.service.go...GATHERINGS.pdf
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That one should be a doddle. He’s over the worst.

So it seems he has either been fined and/or officially criticised for:

1. Attending the birthday event, which the police have decided to call a party and to fine him. I have said from the start that this seems grossly unfair. The event lasted less than 10 minutes between other work activities and all those there met while at work anyway. And that is it from the point of view of the ‘criminality’ allegations, which really does not deserve all the arguments, debates and condemnations that have occurred over the months since the story broke.

2. Sue Gray has determined that there was a lack of senior leadership at No 10, for which the PM has accepted responsibility and is in the process of addressing.

Alll these other comments coming out of the woodwork are from disenchanted people who want to screw Boris, but if there was anything in this, Sue Gray or the police would have picked it up.

As I suspected from the start, this has been much ado about nothing as far as the PM is concerned. However, I do not condone the behaviour of those who were blatantly breaking the rules and carrying on as if it were like 1999.
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As I suspected from the start, this has been much ado about nothing as far as the PM is concerned. However, I do not condone the behaviour of those who were blatantly breaking the rules and carrying on as if it were like 1999.
If this is your takeaway, you’re either high, or reading something else entirely.
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If this is your takeaway, you’re either high, or reading something else entirely.
Well at least I’m not obsessed by this trivia. It’s fluff, nothing more. It’s been addressed, it’s ended.

What a disappointment for you guys who wanted rid of Boris.

Now let’s get on with the real issues of the day. The fun is over all but that final vote, and I know which way that will go.

Up next: Starmer’s after work party. Hoist by his own petard!
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That one should be a doddle. He’s over the worst.

So it seems he has either been fined and/or officially criticised for:

1. Attending the birthday event, which the police have decided to call a party and to fine him. I have said from the start that this seems grossly unfair. The event lasted less than 10 minutes between other work activities and all those there met while at work anyway. And that is it from the point of view of the ‘criminality’ allegations, which really does not deserve all the arguments, debates and condemnations that have occurred over the months since the story broke.

2. Sue Gray has determined that there was a lack of senior leadership at No 10, for which the PM has accepted responsibility and is in the process of addressing.

Alll these other comments coming out of the woodwork are from disenchanted people who want to screw Boris, but if there was anything in this, Sue Gray or the police would have picked it up.

As I suspected from the start, this has been much ado about nothing as far as the PM is concerned. However, I do not condone the behaviour of those who were blatantly breaking the rules and carrying on as if it were like 1999.
As OB says, there's nothing to see here.

Where I work, we have many work events where people throw up and have a punch up - don't you know it's all part of the team building and bonding experience in the public service.

As for the cleaners and security staff, well they only come to work to be abused and ridiculed, they must do because when you consider the low wages they probably get they surely wouldn't come to earn a living so it must be their superb working conditions that keeps them coming back. In fact, thinking about it, I'm surprised these people don't offer to pay to for the privilege to work in the inner sanctum of government.
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