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Old 22-11-2017, 17:11   #151
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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

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Apparently, reports on the web say that VM & ITV signed a ten year deal in 2015.

Info. courtesy of MB.

If that is true then surely ITV haven't got a leg to stand on (not that I think they have anyway).
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Old 22-11-2017, 17:13   #152
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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

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Apparently, reports on the web say that VM & ITV signed a ten year deal in 2015.

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I think that deal related to ITV2, ITV3, ITV4 and ITV Be.

The main ITV channel was not part of any deal as far as I am aware from what I have read. Of course, the public service requirements regarding the duty to broadcast free of charge on all platforms and to take a prominent position in the EPG is laid down separately.
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Old 22-11-2017, 17:39   #153
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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

The 2015 deal seems to have only been for the main PSB channel. Press reports earlier this year suggested the carriage deal for ITV's other channels was due for renewal in September. Presumably ITV's position was "pay for the main ITV channel, or lose all the others".

If September is correct, I guess there has been some kind of temporary agreement to continue distribution of the other channels

http://www.businessinsider.com/itv-c...n-media-2017-5
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Old 23-11-2017, 16:44   #154
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I think that deal related to ITV2, ITV3, ITV4 and ITV Be.

The main ITV channel was not part of any deal as far as I am aware from what I have read. Of course, the public service requirements regarding the duty to broadcast free of charge on all platforms and to take a prominent position in the EPG is laid down separately.
Yes, the information was regarding ITV2 etc.

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The 2015 deal seems to have only been for the main PSB channel. Press reports earlier this year suggested the carriage deal for ITV's other channels was due for renewal in September. Presumably ITV's position was "pay for the main ITV channel, or lose all the others".

If September is correct, I guess there has been some kind of temporary agreement to continue distribution of the other channels

http://www.businessinsider.com/itv-c...n-media-2017-5
If it was the case that the September 2015 deal was in fact for ITV (1) only, I guess that this agreement has presumably been superceded by the change in the law.
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Old 23-11-2017, 17:53   #155
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If it was the case that the September 2015 deal was in fact for ITV (1) only, I guess that this agreement has presumably been superceded by the change in the law.
My assumption is that the existing ITV (1) agreement stands from a legal perspective, but ITV are trying to use the other channels as a bargaining chip to renege on the 10 year agreement now they can legally charge for retransmission.
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My assumption is that the existing ITV (1) agreement stands from a legal perspective, but ITV are trying to use the other channels as a bargaining chip to renege on the 10 year agreement now they can legally charge for retransmission.
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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

ITV is just overflowing with dross which I never watch, so I won't miss it at all.

But if Virgin do pay up, they will no doubt pass on the cost to subscribers even if we don't want it!

Exactly as they did with the BT Sports channels.
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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

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ITV is just overflowing with dross which I never watch, so I won't miss it at all.

But if Virgin do pay up, they will no doubt pass on the cost to subscribers even if we don't want it!

Exactly as they did with the BT Sports channels.

Did they?
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Old 27-01-2018, 19:06   #159
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ITV is just overflowing with dross which I never watch, so I won't miss it at all.

But if Virgin do pay up, they will no doubt pass on the cost to subscribers even if we don't want it!


Exactly as they did with the BT Sports channels.
They've done a few good dramas, to be fair, but I watch only a minimal amount of output from that channel.

By far the most watched channels in this house are BBC 1 and 2, Sky Atlantic (via Now TV), Netflix and Amazon. My wife also watches TLC and Lifetime quite a lot.

If ITV want to take away their presence on Virgin Media in a fit of pique, I'm not really bothered, although to be fair I can still watch all their channels on Freeview if I want to as I have an aerial and a DVD recorder.

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ITV is just overflowing with dross which I never watch, so I won't miss it at all.

But if Virgin do pay up, they will no doubt pass on the cost to subscribers even if we don't want it!

Exactly as they did with the BT Sports channels.
Well, the cost of TV subscriptions did not go up when the BT Sport channels arrived on our screens. They simply became part of the package.
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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

I think the £3pm increase to the XL TV package for the launch of BT Sport Europe is what Taf's referring to.

Here's the Daily Mail's latest take on the ITV situation (nothing really new in the article apart, perhaps, for a few words from David Bouchier)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/mar...le-Virgin.html
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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

Take it off l say as it will hurt ITV far more then it will hit Virgin..
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Take it off l say as it will hurt ITV far more then it will hit Virgin..
Agreed, Den. Virgin should remain firm.
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I think the £3pm increase to the XL TV package for the launch of BT Sport Europe is what Taf's referring to.
Yes, that's it. VM said they "assumed all subscribers were willing to pay for it". But many of us weren't but they would not remove the extra charge.
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Take it off l say as it will hurt ITV far more then it will hit Virgin..
The World Cup is where it might hurt VM and it's customers. (unless they have freeview )

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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

Offer other channels 103 & 113 & send ITV1 down in the 170s with the rest of their channels. See how they like that!
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