UK Intelligence report in to Russian interference in UK Elections/Scottish Referendum
16-07-2020, 18:29
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UK Intelligence report in to Russian interference in UK Elections/Scottish Referendum
Remember when former leader of the Labour Party, Corbyn was holding leaked documents from the governments discussions with the U.S trade relations suggested a NHS selloff deal with a Trump Administration and used them as an attack line, during the election campaigns, well the government claims today that those documents were "amplified" by Russian Actors in an attempt to help Labour win the election.
The government launched an investigation with the National Cyber Security Centre after complaining that the leaked material had been circulated by Russians.
When journalists attempted to question Corbyn at his residency today, he fumbled around his front door, stayed silent only saying "Goodbye".
In another separate allegation, according to the United States, Canada and Britain, Russia is also accused of hacking to steal research into coronavirus vaccines and treatments from Britain.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...anada-12029697
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16-07-2020, 18:52
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
I'm sure if Corbyn was involved in a plot with the Russians against the Government we would have heard before now. This is likely to be a deflection against the imminent release of the report due next week.
I assume nomadking will be along to defend Russia and Corbyn here, after all Russian bounties on British soldiers lives are 'run of the mill against your enemies'.
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16-07-2020, 18:55
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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I'm sure if Corbyn was involved in a plot with the Russians against the Government we would have heard before now. This is likely to be a deflection against the imminent release of the report due next week.
I assume nomadking will be along to defend Russia and Corbyn here, after all Russian bounties on British soldiers lives are 'run of the mill against your enemies'.
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And when have I EVER defended Russia or Corbyn? IIRC At the time, I pointed out that Corbyn's claims were a load of nonsense, and deliberately misrepresented what the report said and was about.
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16-07-2020, 18:56
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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And when have I EVER defended Russia or Corbyn?
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The Russian bounty on British soldiers heads. You said that was a reasonable step. So presumably is trying to destabilise democratic processes?
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16-07-2020, 19:54
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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And when have I EVER defended Russia or Corbyn? IIRC At the time, I pointed out that Corbyn's claims were a load of nonsense, and deliberately misrepresented what the report said and was about.
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That was not the start date that was advised, it was merely when the government were advised(16th or 18th). It couldn't happen overnight, and it was publicly announced on the 23rd.
Surely that alleged spying is a form of seeking collaboration. They were seeking information, which with collaboration would theoretically occur anyway.
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Not sure I'd call 10 miles, "near". In fact Porton Down is nearer, at just 5 miles away. Coincidence?
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16-07-2020, 21:26
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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You’ve got to hand it to Hugh, he keeps us honest.
In regards to the subject, I don’t care. It’s over and they lost anyway.
As long as there are future checks and balances to prevent this.
Corbyn doesn’t need to be hauled over any more coals, his legacy as the worst ever ever leader of the Labour Party is secured in history.
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16-07-2020, 21:28
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
Pierre, welcome. After nomadking’s foray into incoherence this thread has been calling for your right wing, calming, steer.
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16-07-2020, 21:35
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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You’ve got to hand it to Hugh, he keeps us honest.
In regards to the subject, I don’t care. It’s over and they lost anyway.
As long as there are future checks and balances to prevent this.
Corbyn doesn’t need to be hauled over any more coals, his legacy as the worst ever ever leader of the Labour Party is secured in history.
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On that we agree.
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17-07-2020, 13:27
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
'Almost certain' Russians sought to interfere in 2019 UK election - Raab
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53433523
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Russians almost certainly sought to interfere in the 2019 UK general election through illicitly acquired documents, the government has said.
Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said any attempt to meddle in UK democracy was "completely unacceptable".
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If only there had been some sort of report available before the election that highlighted Russian attempts to influence previous elections, perhaps more could have been done...
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17-07-2020, 14:02
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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'Almost certain' Russians sought to interfere in 2019 UK election - Raab
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53433523
If only there had been some sort of report available before the election that highlighted Russian attempts to influence previous elections, perhaps more could have been done...
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They were just sharing their expertise in document management with us Hugh and now they're similarly collaborating with us to develop a Covid-19 vaccine.
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17-07-2020, 14:30
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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'Almost certain' Russians sought to interfere in 2019 UK election - Raab
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53433523
If only there had been some sort of report available before the election that highlighted Russian attempts to influence previous elections, perhaps more could have been done...
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You mean you suddenly experienced a memory relapse in where it's a well known fact Russians like to interfere in foreign elections?
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17-07-2020, 14:51
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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You mean you suddenly experienced a memory relapse in where it's a well known fact Russians like to interfere in foreign elections?
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But I thought it never happened, or if it did happen, it didn’t make any difference, or if it did make any difference, it doesn’t matter now, as it’s in the past and nothing can be done about it?
(just getting the lines out before next week’s release of the report...)
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17-07-2020, 15:06
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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But I thought it never happened, or if it did happen, it didn’t make any difference, or if it did make any difference, it doesn’t matter now, as it’s in the past and nothing can be done about it?
(just getting the lines out before next week’s release of the report...)
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lol - I think the strategy briefed to friendly ears is to deflect away from the Russian donors and onto Jeremy Corbyn.
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17-07-2020, 15:35
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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lol - I think the strategy briefed to friendly ears is to deflect away from the Russian donors and onto Jeremy Corbyn.
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But the Russians appeared to be helping Corbyn, with these illicit obtained documents, so what gives?
Enough of the silly humourless attempts, every time Hugh posts something. Are you not bothered about the leaking or you just posting today, in sarky response mode with a wink or smiley?
If so, pathetic Andrew, pathetic.
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17-07-2020, 15:41
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Re: Was Labour complicit with Russian interference in 2019 UK General Election?
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But the Russians appeared to helping Corbyn, with these illicit obtained documents, so what gives?
Enough of the silly humourless attempts, every time Hugh posts something. Are you not bothered about the leaking or you just posting today, in sarky response mode with a wink or smiley?
If so, pathetic Andrew, pathetic.
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But the Russians don't want to help anyone (but themselves) - all they do is spread disinformation to cause disruption, or fund groups to do the same thing - in the USA, it was discovered they were funding/promoting BLM and also anti-BLM movements.
And to avoid any confusion, I think it’s wrong that any illegally obtained documents should be used in election campaigns.
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