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Old 11-12-2007, 21:13   #1
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Finally got Sky!

And went from a solid 4mbps to 3.2, 384kbps to ~290 and pings of 12ms (bbc.co.uk) to 77ms

Sky

Edit: Btw, this is the "up to 8mbit/448kbit upload"

---------- Post added at 21:13 ---------- Previous post was at 20:33 ----------

Edit: It just went off, and said "ADSL Link Down"

I reconnected, did a speedtest and I'm getting 5.3mbps
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Old 11-12-2007, 21:15   #2
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Re: Finally got Sky!

if its max and it's only just been activated, you'll have to wait anywhere upto 10 or so days while it trains and then gets locked to the best possible speed.
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Old 11-12-2007, 21:24   #3
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Re: Finally got Sky!

Okay, I'll leave it a bit then. Thanks.

Also, is it normal for my router to keep asking me to log in every so often?
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Old 11-12-2007, 22:05   #4
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Re: Finally got Sky!

sky connect (the one you on) is much poorer than skys normal LLU service.
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Old 11-12-2007, 22:56   #5
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Re: Finally got Sky!

I'm on the "Mid" service
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Old 11-12-2007, 23:06   #6
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Re: Finally got Sky!

What are the stats? Downstream attenuation & noise margin?

How do you connect the router? Extension or master socket?


etc. etc.

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if its max and it's only just been activated, you'll have to wait anywhere upto 10 or so days while it trains and then gets locked to the best possible speed.

Nope, not with Sky BB Max, Mid, or Base. Sky's LLU services have no "training period".


Unless by "max" you mean "ADSLMax", such as Sky's non-LLU "Sky BB Connect" service, which is just a resold BT BB ADSLMax service.
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Old 11-12-2007, 23:50   #7
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Re: Finally got Sky!

Sky "Mid" package

Connection Speed 3808 kbps 384 kbps
Line Attenuation 26.0 db 13.5 db
Noise Margin 11.5 db 14.0 db
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Old 12-12-2007, 10:30   #8
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What are the stats? Downstream attenuation & noise margin?


How would I find those out, please Matt?
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How would I find those out, please Matt?
Try here.
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I'm on the "Mid" service
you on ipstream - non LLU

evident due to the 448 upstream.
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Re: Finally got Sky!

what are u comparing sky with ?
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Are you connected to the main BT socket in your house? How far are you from your exchange?
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Nope, not with Sky BB Max, Mid, or Base. Sky's LLU services have no "training period".


Unless by "max" you mean "ADSLMax", such as Sky's non-LLU "Sky BB Connect" service, which is just a resold BT BB ADSLMax service.
yep i meant max as in adsl max... AFAIK none of the LLU has no training period, regardless of isp.
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Re: Finally got Sky!

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Sky "Mid" package

Connection Speed 3808 kbps 384 kbps
Line Attenuation 26.0 db 13.5 db
Noise Margin 11.5 db 14.0 db
I wish I had your attenuation!

It's easily low enough for the full 16mbps (depending on noise margin) if you were to be on Sky BB Max, & certainly low enough for the full 8mbps on Sky BB Mid.

However your sync speed is low, & noise margin high. Maybe you've been capped due to a poor line, or maybe the noise margin was very low the last time the router synced (causing a low sync speed), & has since risen.

Have a good read of these...

http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/view-common.html

http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/view-master.html

http://www.dslzoneuk.net/socket.php

http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/route...explained.html

http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/route...ter-stats.html

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you on ipstream - non LLU

evident due to the 448 upstream.
Sky BB Mid has a 448kbps upload AFAIK, & is LLU...

It's only Sky BB Max which has 768kbps upload.

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yep i meant max as in adsl max... AFAIK none of the LLU has no training period, regardless of isp.
Ah, thought that's what you meant
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Old 13-12-2007, 22:38   #15
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Re: Finally got Sky!

I plugged my router into the test socket and got 7mbps, then I realised all the other sockets needed those splitter things. Now I have

Connection Speed 8096 kbps 384 kbps
Line Attenuation 25.0 db 13.0 db
Noise Margin 14.8 db 14.0 db

and get a download speed of just under 7mbps, and an upload speed of 320kbps. Pings are still bad compared to VM though.

Matt D, could I really get around 16mbps with Max?
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