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Old 05-01-2020, 17:05   #31
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As far as the Kurds are concerned, everybody that isn't Kurdish is foreign. It's a case of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".
A bit like the United States approach in the Middle East supporting the Taliban and Saddam?

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Old 05-01-2020, 18:09   #32
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BREAKING: Iranian state TV reports Iran will no longer abide by any Uranium limits of its 2015 nuclear deal. www.apne.ws/4Sji74x
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BREAKING: Iranian state TV reports Iran will no longer abide by any Uranium limits of its 2015 nuclear deal. www.apne.ws/4Sji74x
Because up til now they were absolutely abiding by it. To the letter ...
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BREAKING: Iranian state TV reports Iran will no longer abide by any Uranium limits of its 2015 nuclear deal. www.apne.ws/4Sji74x
Before you know it one of them will throw a flip flop at a picture of Trump.
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Re: U.S Assassinates Top Iranian General

@NYTimes: “Officials presented the president with options. The Pentagon tacked on the choice of targeting Suleimani mainly to make other options seem reasonable. They didn’t think he would take it. When Mr. Trump chose the option, military officials, flabbergasted, were alarmed.”
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The Kurds aren't foreign forces or aligned with ISIS.
Many of the Kurds come from Turkey and Iran, and I may have missed a comma to separate them from "foreign forces aligned with ISIS".
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Re: U.S Assassinates Top Iranian General

As Hillary said you have a private position and a public position, i wonder what the Iraq government wants in private.
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Re: U.S Assassinates Top Iranian General

So what could these multitude of "other options" have possibly been? Pretty much boils down to kill or capture.
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Re: U.S Assassinates Top Iranian General

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@NYTimes: “Officials presented the president with options. The Pentagon tacked on the choice of targeting Suleimani mainly to make other options seem reasonable. They didn’t think he would take it. When Mr. Trump chose the option, military officials, flabbergasted, were alarmed.”
Sounds like they're suggesting a bit of a misjudgment on the Pentagon's part.

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So what could these multitude of "other options" have possibly been? Pretty much boils down to kill or capture.
It says they did not involve targeting Suleimani.
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Re: U.S Assassinates Top Iranian General

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Sounds like they're suggesting a bit of a misjudgment on the Pentagon's part.

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It says they did not involve targeting Suleimani.
So what could these multitude of other options have been? 1) Leave him alone, achieving little. 2) Capture him. Difficult, dangerous, and doesn't achieve anything. If the Pentagon didn't want to take some sort of action, there was no need to tell the President anything. It would've been "business as usual".

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Re: U.S Assassinates Top Iranian General

There's always the possibility that the Israelis were going to take him out if the Americans didn't which would have been less palatable for the likes of Jordan, Saudi and the other Sunni Arab states.
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Re: U.S Assassinates Top Iranian General

Iraq has voted for US and UK army to leave. It seems we're unhappy about this especially as ISIS still remains a concern.
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Iraq has voted for US and UK army to leave. It seems we're unhappy about this especially as ISIS still remains a concern.
The vote was non-binding. We won’t be leaving anytime soon. In Iraq, there are pro-Iran forces at play and none of the Anti-Iran Iraqi MPs bothered to show up to vote today. Today’s vote was all for show.
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Because up til now they were absolutely abiding by it. To the letter ...
Evidence suggests they were

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So what could these multitude of other options have been? 1) Leave him alone, achieving little. 2) Capture him. Difficult, dangerous, and doesn't achieve anything. If the Pentagon didn't want to take some sort of action, there was no need to tell the President anything. It would've been "business as usual".
"It says they did not involve targeting Suleimani" so let's exclude him.
So other options include:
- Target other individuals
- Target Iranian infrastructure physically
- Target Iraninan infrastructure technolologically
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