Coronavirus (OLD)

Originally Posted by Pierre

Vitamin D helps fight and avoid infection

http://news.sky.com/story/coronaviru...-find-12081132

But we knew that over 4 months ago, so why hasn’t it been publicised more?

I think there was a strong suspicion that it might but also concerns over if the data really told that story. People with vitamin D deficiencies were doing worse than those without but those with vitamin D deficiencies are also people who may not go out such as the elderly who were already susceptible to COVID. So it was a correlation does not imply causation thing. Remember at the start of this there was also the suspicion that ibuprofen would make COVID worse which turned out not to be true.

So they do a study and it turns out that, at least this time, there is evidence their suspicion is correct. Public Health authorities though are rightly wary of promoting health advice they aren't entirely convinced by.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Sod the bloody NHS. All we hear about is the NHS, NHS, NHS.

What is the point of an NHS that cannot provide the service element in its name? Cancer? Kidneys? Hip replacements, etc. The NHS isn't exactly overwhelmed with CV vases now plus they have the Nightingale capacity.

Barbed wire round the doctors' surgery; Gestapo surgery front desk only capable of saying "No".

My mask shields me from other emitted particles; my plain galss spectacles reduces particle ingress to my eyes; hand gel galore. What's the big problem?

If the younger proportion run wild, they're not affecting the more vulnerable people who protect themselves sensibly.

And the Guvmin hasn't a clue what do do.

You won't get many old folk clapping for the Nhs who have abandoned them.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Sod the bloody NHS. All we hear about is the NHS, NHS, NHS.

What is the point of an NHS that cannot provide the service element in its name? Cancer? Kidneys? Hip replacements, etc. The NHS isn't exactly overwhelmed with CV vases now plus they have the Nightingale capacity.

Barbed wire round the doctors' surgery; Gestapo surgery front desk only capable of saying "No".

My mask shields me from other emitted particles; my plain galss spectacles reduces particle ingress to my eyes; hand gel galore. What's the big problem?

If the younger proportion run wild, they're not affecting the more vulnerable people who protect themselves sensibly.

And the Guvmin hasn't a clue what do do.

Totally agree with that, it's an absolute joke now, bloody sick of all this shit.

[downquark1]

Vitamin D is a vitamin, there is no downside from promoting it. Yes topping up your vitamin d levels ensures your immune system is at 100% but it won't boost it beyond that

[Pierre]

Love this from the police today in London.

https://twitter.com/MetPoliceEvents/...87897802280967

We continue to urge crowds to disperse. This protest is no longer exempt from the regulations.

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Oh because it’s not about BLM, or extinction rebellion it’s not exempt from the regulations.

[nomadking]

Even with Vitamin D, the immune system takes time to build it's immunity. In that intervening time, damage is done to cells.

The required specialist surgeons(eg orthopaedic for joint replacements) can't be magicked out of thin air, Then there is the physiotherapists etc.

Wearing a mask isn't 100% effective.

Not quite sure how having potentially infected people gathering in GP surgeries is a good idea.

The younger generation go home, work in shops, visit people etc. That makes their behaviour a potential risk.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Love this from the police today in London.

https://twitter.com/MetPoliceEvents/...87897802280967

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Oh because it’s not about BLM, or extinction rebellion it’s not exempt from the regulations.

Different time with different regulations?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Different time with different regulations?

Absolute bollocks.

The BLM protests occurred when we were still in full national lockdown, you know when Cummings was getting his eyes tested.

This is double standards and hypocrisy of a gold standard.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Absolute bollocks.

The BLM protests occurred when we were still in full national lockdown, you know when Cummings was getting his eyes tested.

This is double standards and hypocrisy of a gold standard.

Spot on

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Absolute bollocks.

The BLM protests occurred when we were still in full national lockdown, you know when Cummings was getting his eyes tested.

This is double standards and hypocrisy of a gold standard.

Far from being “bollocks” it’s fairly obvious outside the right wing echo chamber that morons were out to cause bother and the police adjusted to the situation. Morons at a time Covid cases are spiking. Hard to see the sense in supporting them.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Absolute bollocks.

The BLM protests occurred when we were still in full national lockdown, you know when Cummings was getting his eyes tested.

This is double standards and hypocrisy of a gold standard.

Originally Posted by Mad Max

Spot on

Really? I did put a ? at the end of the sentence, because I hadn't checked.
Covid: Clashes as police shut down protest over new rules

The Met Police said the protest was being shut down because the crowd was not social distancing.
Thousands had gathered in central London to protest against the latest government rules, with very few wearing masks.
Protests are exempt from the rule-of-six restrictions, but demonstrators must social distance; organisers must also submit a risk assessment.

Link

Each UK nation is advising people to stay 2m (6ft) away from anyone they don't live with. However, there are some differences:

• In England, if you can't stay 2m away, you can stay "1m plus" apart. The "plus" means doing something else to limit possible exposure - like wearing a face covering

So indeed it is a case of different time, different rules.

[jfman]

It’s a bad day when Nomadking can shoot you down with copying and pasting from two sources.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

Far from being “bollocks” it’s fairly obvious outside the right wing echo chamber that morons were out to cause bother and the police adjusted to the situation. Morons at a time Covid cases are spiking. Hard to see the sense in supporting them.

They didn’t “adjust” for BLM, they just let them vandalise what they want.

I don’t “support” them, I support the right to protest on an equal footing to other causes and be policed in the same manner.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by jfman

It’s a bad day when Nomadking can shoot you down with copying and pasting from two sources.

Unfortunately, I would say it's more of a normal day.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Really? I did put a ? at the end of the sentence, because I hadn't checked.
Covid: Clashes as police shut down protest over new rules
Link

So indeed it is a case of different time, different rules.

Did the BLM protestors socially distance? Did the extinction rebellion protestors socially distance - when, I might add we were in full national lockdown.

The answer if you are unsure, is absolutely no, and I might add again that this type of totalitarian bollocks is partly the reason they are protesting.

It seems that some protests are more equal than others.

Such is the way of things these times.

An anti-mask protest is probably going to break the rules on wearing masks tbf.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Did the BLM protestors socially distance? Did the extinction rebellion protestors socially distance - when, I might add we were in full national lockdown.

The national lock down had easied to be 'exercise as much as you want, go to work if you must, you can drive to wherever you like' by then. It wasn't quite the full national lockdown.