UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal

[RichardCoulter]

Nobody has mentioned unicorns for some time now; Home Bargains are now selling them:

https://www.homebargains.co.uk/produ...n-ride-on.aspx

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

Having the checkpoint coming into Kent makes sense though as it prevents the build up being down at the ports and disrupting everyone else.

I think it's in Kent because Deal is in Kent and someone has a sense of humour.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

If it ends up as England and Wales, would it still be called Great Britain? Genuinely don't know the answer as to what a rump nation could be called.

In around 90 years time it’ll be called ‘The Something republic of England’.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think it's in Kent because Deal is in Kent and someone has a sense of humour.

Ah .. Deal - one of our regular holiday spots and within eyeshot of France. A favourite landing spot for economic migrants, shepherded in that direction by the EU’s French Navy.

As I said before, it’s all gone quiet on the Brexit front. It appears that everything’s been agreed except Fishing and Level Playing Field. I suspect that the French are the ones holding out and various European country elections are getting in the way of reasonableness. Except Ireland, who don’t have elections and are nevertheless trying to stick it to us.

Interesting that Stormont Assembly has rejected the Guvmin’s Bill clause that amends the WA; this is likely to,stiffen the EU’s objections and weaken our negotiation hand.

http://www.northernstandard.ie/2020/...s-brexit-bill/

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

In around 90 years time it’ll be called ‘The Something republic of England’.

I'm intrigued by what the Something might be:
"EU"
"sunny uplands"
"no linear TV"

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

In around 90 years time it’ll be called ‘The Something republic of England’.

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Ah .. Deal - one of our regular holiday spots and within eyeshot of France. A favourite landing spot for economic migrants, shepherded in that direction by the EU’s French Navy.

As I said before, it’s all gone quiet on the Brexit front. It appears that everything’s been agreed except Fishing and Level Playing Field. I suspect that the French are the ones holding out and various European country elections are getting in the way of reasonableness. Except Ireland, who don’t have elections and are nevertheless trying to stick it to us.

Interesting that Stormont Assembly has rejected the Guvmin’s Bill clause that amends the WA; this is likely to,stiffen the EU’s objections and weaken our negotiation hand.

http://www.northernstandard.ie/2020/...s-brexit-bill/

How on earth would England be able to stop the flood of arrivals from the newly created 3rd world countries of Wales and Scotland?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I'm intrigued by what the Something might be:
"EU"
"sunny uplands"
"no linear TV"

You can't push me on that one. The Mods would object. But you do know, don't you?

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Originally Posted by nomadking

How on earth would England be able to stop the flood of arrivals from the newly created 3rd world countries of Wales and Scotland?

LOL, not to mention the ones fleeing to England before separation.

But it is a worry, the French sheperding them over to us. And certain people on this thread like the EU!

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

You can't push me on that one. The Mods would object. But you do know, don't you?

Nope, don't know.

LOL, not to mention the ones fleeing to England before separation.

But it is a worry, the French shepherding them over to us. And certain people on this thread like the EU!

We voted to leave the Dublin Agreement. I'm sure I saw posters advertising the queues of people we should expect if we voted Leave. People generously voted to be good Samaritans and save them from a bad life by not returning them to the EU.

[1andrew1]

Also worth mentioning why we will need lorry parks. Even if we sign a deal, there will be still be time-consuming customs checks.

The only things preventing this have been ruled out by the UK government, namely:
- Being in the internal market: the customs union removes tariff barriers
- Being in the single market which removes non-tariff barriers.

[nomadking]

Of course nothing whatsoever to with the EU demanding things from the UK that it doesn't require from any other non-EU country, demanding control and rights over fishing, not forgetting the shenanigans of the Remain side to obstruct things and give succour to the EU.
Turkey has been in a customs union with the EU for more than 20 years, yet there are still long delays at the border.
Link

On a recent Saturday at the Kapıkule border crossing, about 30 minutes drive from the Turkish city of Edirne, a line of trucks 4km long stretched along the highway, inching along glacially towards the Bulgarian checkpoints. “Today is a good day,” said Ibrahim Kurtukcu, a 42-year trucker who had been waiting 14 hours. “Last week the line was 7km long.” The record is 17km. It can take up to 30 hours to get through to the other side.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by nomadking

How on earth would England be able to stop the flood of arrivals from the newly created 3rd world countries of Wales and Scotland?

Borders!

[heero_yuy]

Repair that wall and put Offa's Dyke back into good order.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think we can take the word of an organisation that represents NI's leading supermarkets that food deliveries to NI won't be blocked.
If BoJo can step up and finally unveil his state aid proposals that would help too.

Since when have the supermarkets been in league with the EU administration? Just because they say that doesn’t make it true.

Something spooked the negotiators, that is for sure.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Of course nothing whatsoever to with the EU demanding things from the UK that it doesn't require from any other non-EU country, demanding control and rights over fishing, not forgetting the shenanigans of the Remain side to obstruct things and give succour to the EU.
Turkey has been in a customs union with the EU for more than 20 years, yet there are still long delays at the border.
Link

Turkey is not in the single market and its customs union with the the EU is not for all products eg agriculture is excluded.

What needs to be understood is that even if we sign a deal with the EU, there will be still be time-consuming customs checks as the options to remove them have been ruled out by the UK.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Which of these statements does today's statement come closest to?
a) "There will be no downside to Brexit, only a considerable upside" (David Davis).
b) "The day after we vote to leave, we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want" (Michael Gove. Did he actually mean "park" not "path"?).
c) "Getting out of the EU can be quick and easy – the UK holds most of the cards" (John Redwood. The cards that BoJo's holding all start with J and none is a jack!)
d) Project Fear.

I guess we can make that assessment in January. Clearly, you don’t think that we will get a tariff-free trade deal, and you have been negative about the whole Brexit project from the off. You have also been wrong. Just a short while to go now and remainders can see how wrong they have been.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Turkey is not in the single market and its customs union with the the EU is not for all products eg agriculture is excluded.

What needs to be understood is that even if we sign a deal with the EU, there will be still be time-consuming customs checks as the options to remove them have been ruled out by the UK.

Where does it say that? Customs Union = NO CUSTOMS CHECKS.

“The customs union means free movement of our goods,” said Erman Ereke, a member of the executive committee of the Turkish International Transporters’ Association. “It doesn’t mean free movement of our trucks.”