Knife Crime

[Taf]

More than 9,500 stop and searches were carried out in less than a year by a Welsh police force in a bid to tackle the growth of knife crime.

South Wales Police said it had taken an "intelligence-led approach" to getting weapons off the streets.

On average, 30 searches a day were carried out by Wales' largest force over the last 11 months.

But knife crime is still rising very rapidly.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47529922

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I would like to comment on this. And l do not think members will like it.

We are NOT going to beat for TWO reasons.

1) Sad to say that there is NOT enough police officers or police staff on the streets of the UK due to the severe cuts brought on by this awful government.

In London alone there has been a cut of 20.000 officers since the Tories got into power - that's a FACT


2) Stop and search will ONLY work if members of the public stopped going on about - Oh Why are you stopping me again. Police have the power to stop ANYONE they belive is carrying a weapon. They go by Intelligence led information.


Police will also go far there own checks.

The biggest problem in this country, is that the public jump onto the back of officers who are stopping Black or White persons in the street.

To me the lack of respect for law enforcement officers has completely gone out of the window.

Just let officers do there job.

[Mr K]

There aren't the police officers to do it Arthur, 21,000 axed by this Govt.

[Carth]

Many have no respect for the law, no respect for their parents, no respect for other people in society.

Gang culture is rife, which is IMO just a set of big bullies threatening kids to 'join us or get whacked'.

I'll probably get shot for this but going to say it anyway:

Thank you America for teaching us how to lose control of our kids.
Thank you Liberal 'do gooders' for giving kids the right to walk out of school lessons when they feel like it, to abuse teachers/police/parents with no punishment because 'oh the little darlings are too young to be responsible'
Thank you to the lawyers and law makers who have removed any kind of deterrent for many crimes, and made punishment for these crimes a joke.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Carth

Many have no respect for the law, no respect for their parents, no respect for other people in society.

Gang culture is rife, which is IMO just a set of big bullies threatening kids to 'join us or get whacked'.

I'll probably get shot for this but going to say it anyway:

Thank you America for teaching us how to lose control of our kids.
Thank you Liberal 'do gooders' for giving kids the right to walk out of school lessons when they feel like it, to abuse teachers/police/parents with no punishment because 'oh the little darlings are too young to be responsible'
Thank you to the lawyers and law makers who have removed any kind of deterrent for many crimes, and made punishment for these crimes a joke.

Thank you parents for not bringing your kids up properly ?

Whilst your points above may hold some sway, surely this begins in family homes across the country?

[nomadking]

How SPECIFICALLY would even a ten-fold increase in police officers solve anything? Take any incident and SPECIFY how an increase would have changed that incident.

Criminals of whatever kind, do not sit around, not committing any crimes, see the drop in police officers and therefore decide to go out and commit a crime as a result.
Link.

Diane Abbott: I sent my son to private school so he wouldn't end up in a gang
I knew what could happen to my son if he was sent to the wrong school and got in with the wrong crowd.
I realised they were subjected to peer *pressure and when that happens it’s very hard for a mother to save her son.
Once a black boy is lost to the world of gangs it’s very hard to get them back and I was genuinely very fearful of what could happen.

Trevor Phillips is calling for ministers to discuss why a worryingly large number of violent crimes are committed by black teens on other black youngsters.
It comes after a series of stabbings in London and Birmingham in the past week involving a large proportion of black youths.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Thank you parents for not bringing your kids up properly ?

Whilst your points above may hold some sway, surely this begins in family homes across the country?

oh I agree, and the majority do a great job of it. Society however, has given some kids the idea that no matter what they do, they cannot be punished for it.
Woe betide the parent who's child rings childline because they didn't like being put on the naughty step

[tweetiepooh]

Knife crime is the symptom not the problem.

Part of the issue has already been mentioned and it's the breakup of the family and the loss of a real moral compass. Whatever you may think of it a Judeo-Christian influence does have a positive impact (love others) but what we get is that you should follow whatever you feel is right.

[Taf]

Slight aside....

Diane Abbott: I sent my son to private school so he wouldn't end up in a gang ....
Once a black boy is lost to the world of gangs.....

Didn't she moan the other day for being described as "coloured" by Amber Rudd? And now she has referred to her own son as "black" ?

[peanut]

Originally Posted by Taf

Slight aside....



Didn't she moan the other day for being described as "coloured" by Amber Rudd? And now she has referred to her own son as "black" ?

'Black' is fine but 'coloured' isn't. That is until tomorrow or whenever it changes to something else. It is so easy to not keep up with these things.

Topic! Stick to it.

[peanut]

Wow. Have I missed something or has posts been deleted??

Originally Posted by peanut

Wow. Have I missed something or has posts been deleted??

No! But do stick to the topic which is knife crime.