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Old 19-02-2019, 12:39   #1
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Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?

I've just been reading that, when 5G is introduced, that the speed and capacity will be much better than the fixed line broadband and mobile internet that we have now.

Will this innovation lead to a lot of people dumping fixed line broadband along with the very idea of 'home' internet and 'mobile' internet and just using the one provider wherever in the UK they find themselves?

Could this eventually lead to the death of fixed line broadband?
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Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?

how would I connect to it from home? Would I need a new router with a SIM in it? Or is the assumption that "everyone" uses their phone? That then goes against smart TVs, unless people will stream from phone straight to TV or whatever young cool kids do these days
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Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?

What about people that have little or no mobile coverage? - or people in remote areas?
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Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?

Will it be as reliable as a fixed connection I wonder.

Will it even cope with every house trying to use it at the same time .....
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Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?

Technology marches on.
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Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?

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What about people that have little or no mobile coverage? - or people in remote areas?
I suspect that they will have to rely on fixed line internet (probably over the telephone wires).

Sparsely populated areas are unlikely to be served by Virgin Media or mobile phone companies due to the costs involved in return for little profitability.
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Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?

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What about people that have little or no mobile coverage? - or people in remote areas?
People in remote areas tend not to get fast wired broadband either. I get around 4Mbit down and 0.4Mbit up, on an exceptionally good copper EO line thatís more than 4.5 miles long. Others in my area arenít so lucky.

At the same time I can access a fairly mediocre 4g signal via EE that usually gives me about double that speed and Iíd use it in a flash were it not for the fact that itís pigging expensive. Weíre a family of five, with a combined monthly download in excess of 50GB per month. Thatís fine with unlimited BT broadband but I shudder to think what it would be on a mobile contract.
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Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?

Yup - I was in Penrhos, Monmouthshire a couple of weekends ago, and we had 1 Mb/s down and about 250Kb/s up.
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First Samsung 5G phone more than $2,000. Not cheap.
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Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?

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First Samsung 5G phone more than $2,000. Not cheap.
There isn't any prices for the 5G phones yet?
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Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?

Quote from the link; A 4G version of the Galaxy Fold is set to go on sale on April 26 and will start at $1,980 (£1,515). A more expensive 5G edition was also promised. Maybe that's the 5G fold variant, the S10 5G doesn't have a price yet.
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Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?

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There isn't any prices for the 5G phones yet?

I think that is the new bendy double phone thingy.

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First Samsung 5G phone more than $2,000. Not cheap.

I think that is the new bendy double phone thingy.
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Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?

Let’s stick to the original topic please
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Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?

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Will it be as reliable as a fixed connection I wonder.

Will it even cope with every house trying to use it at the same time .....
Will it cope if someone happens to throw up a large building between you and your local Mobile base station?

Actually, I don't think Fixed line broadband is going away anytime soon. Why? Backhaul. While it is feasible to have mobile base stations connect to each other via Microwave links, they also need some fibre backhaul network to connect them to both the mobile phone network and, ultimately, the internet. The fibre backhaul also provides a higher capacity than the Microwave link.

Running a dedicated fibre to each base station would be relatively expensive, so the mobile providers tend to lease connections to the local fixed-line broadband networks, whether they are BT, Virgin or whoever. These networks are largely paid for by the users of fixed-line broadband.

Richard mentioned it would enable you to have one provider for all your internet needs, at home and out and about, but I would question the value of this. I have Virgin media at home, and my current Mobile network is 3. I am happy with both, and I don't see the advantage of having both provided by one company. Even if I did, it's perfectly feasible to have that now.
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Re: Will 5G kill off fixed line broadband & the differentiation of mobile intetnet?

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Will it cope if someone happens to throw up a large building between you and your local Mobile base station?

Actually, I don't think Fixed line broadband is going away anytime soon. Why? Backhaul. While it is feasible to have mobile base stations connect to each other via Microwave links, they also need some fibre backhaul network to connect them to both the mobile phone network and, ultimately, the internet. The fibre backhaul also provides a higher capacity than the Microwave link.

Running a dedicated fibre to each base station would be relatively expensive, so the mobile providers tend to lease connections to the local fixed-line broadband networks, whether they are BT, Virgin or whoever. These networks are largely paid for by the users of fixed-line broadband.

Richard mentioned it would enable you to have one provider for all your internet needs, at home and out and about, but I would question the value of this. I have Virgin media at home, and my current Mobile network is 3. I am happy with both, and I don't see the advantage of having both provided by one company. Even if I did, it's perfectly feasible to have that now.
I was thinking that, as a superior service, people would use 5G whilst at home and away from home. I suppose whether it was unlimited or not would affect the decision to do this.
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