Government & Post Election Discussion
03-05-2019, 15:38
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
Theresa May, heckled as she remarks on Conservative Council losses last night....
"Why don't you resign?" and "We don't want you!".
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsPolitics/...78893102473216
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03-05-2019, 16:17
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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Definitely a career as Panto villain beckons....
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Ooff, Baldrick isn't pulling any punches..
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03-05-2019, 16:24
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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Originally Posted by Mr K
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Nor is Sajid Javid, the home secretary.
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Javid tells Tories to prepare for even worse results at European elections
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He added that the European elections “will be even more challenging”, saying the party should not be surprised “if people tick the protest box on the ballot paper.”
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03-05-2019, 16:49
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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Nor is Sajid Javid, the home secretary.
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The thing about the EU elections is that the country will not suffer if we elected a Cat Lovers' Party because MEPs don't have much sway over legislation anyway. This is actually a brilliant opportunity to get the message across to both the government and the EU without economic consequences for us.
A Brexit Party win will be a huge shock, despite the fact that everyone bar the MPs in parliament can see this coming a mile off. Do they really have to see it before they believe it? Seems so. .
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They punished them for entertaining a bad-deal Brexit and acknowledge that remaining is better than a bad deal whatever their politics.
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Not so. If the Brexit Party had stood in these elections, they would have made a huge impression.
Whereas the Remainers had specific anti-Brexit parties to vote for, Brexiteers had none.
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03-05-2019, 16:52
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Whereas the Remainers had specific anti-Brexit parties to vote for, Brexiteers had none.
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They had UKIP and Conservative and probably the Labour Party too.
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03-05-2019, 16:57
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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They had UKIP and Conservative and probably the Labour Party too.
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How do you expect Brexiteers to express dissatisfaction by voting Conservative or Labour? UKIP are a discredited party, too focussed on race and in any case did not stand in many areas.
As I said, the EU elections, if they happen, will be the real test.
Neither the Government nor the Opposition should be wanting those elections to go ahead.
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03-05-2019, 17:04
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
With 206 councils declared now out of 248 councils the Conservatives have now lost over a thousand Councillors while Labour have lost one hundred Councillors.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48091592
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03-05-2019, 17:14
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Very careless of them.
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03-05-2019, 17:20
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Very careless of them.
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There's a message in there somewhere.
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03-05-2019, 18:34
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
BREAKING: Theresa May collects another unwanted record award just now - as she passes Tony Blair's 1,161 councillor losses in 1999 to suffer the biggest local election defeat in more than 20 years. Conservatives are Currently down 1,222 Seats.
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03-05-2019, 19:16
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If it's some sort of shabby compromise that is BRINO then the Brexit party will get stronger on the back of the Westminster sellout.
As far as I can see the only thing that would deflate support would be a no deal exit.
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Was thinking more of their strategy for the EU elections and then those elections being removed but yes it probably wouldn't be more than a minor setback to them
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03-05-2019, 19:41
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How do you expect Brexiteers to express dissatisfaction by voting Conservative or Labour? UKIP are a discredited party, too focussed on race and in any case did not stand in many areas.
As I said, the EU elections, if they happen, will be the real test.
Neither the Government nor the Opposition should be wanting those elections to go ahead.
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You said they had no pro-Brexit parties to vote for which was clearly wrong. You are now posing a different question.
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BREAKING: Theresa May collects another unwanted record award just now - as she passes Tony Blair's 1,161 councillor losses in 1999 to suffer the biggest local election defeat in more than 20 years. Conservatives are Currently down 1,222 Seats.
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Serves her right for setting down those ridiculous red lines and panicking by hitting the red A50 button without a plan.
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04-05-2019, 01:50
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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They had UKIP and Conservative and probably the Labour Party too.
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You are comletely wrong, and you know it. If I am a Conservative and want to protest, where do I go? UKIP is discredited and doesn't even field candidates in many areas.
If we have EU elections, we will have a Brexit Party. Maybe that will help you get a better perspective of what the British actually think of the EU.
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Very careless of them.
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It was to be expected. The hard Brexit we wanted has not been delivered.
Sorry if that doesn't fit into your mindset!
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You said they had no pro-Brexit parties to vote for which was clearly wrong. You are now posing a different
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What were the pro-Brexit parties then, Andrew? If we had one in my area, I must have missed it!
Don't talk about UKIP. They are an extremist party that I most certainly wouldn't vote for. You are clutching at straws now.
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04-05-2019, 07:14
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
People seem to be ignoring all the Independent candidates who got elected. Many of whom are ex Tories who were either de-selected for not toeing the party line, or who left over Tory handling of Brexit. Same applies to former Labour Independents.
With Labours fence squatting, they were also a possible home for protesting Brexit Tories, which may explain why Labour did not do as badly as Tories. The opposite may also explain the Tories success in North East Derbyshire.
One thing that should not be forgotten, is the strong remain areas of Scotland & London were not holding elections.
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04-05-2019, 08:36
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How about NOT using local elections as a form of protest but approach them along the lines of seeing who will actually do something about LOCAL issues? All those new councillors won't be having much to do with brexit or remain at local level so let's hope that they will be concentrating on rubbish collections,potholes other local issues.
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