Crisis in the NHS

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by denphone

What happened to that old fashioned value of applying clear normal common sense?.

Red tape and the compensation culture.

[Gavin78]

We recently recruited a nurse, 2 months down the line she's still working on her ward the reason being the current ward she works on is so busy and short of staff the manager wont release the reference needed in order to work on our ward.

HR have had to get involved.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...P=share_btn_fb

Don't see this improving the situation.

Theresa May's focus on immigration number-counting at the expense of our hard-pressed NHS is clearly demonstrated by this.

She should know that UKIP's a spent force and she can now safely put the NHS before immigration red tape box-ticking.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Theresa May's focus on immigration number-counting at the expense of our hard-pressed NHS is clearly demonstrated by this.

She should know that UKIP's a spent force and she can now safely put the NHS before immigration red tape box-ticking.

Add on top of that is that NHS hospitals facing serious shortages of vital equipment as well.

Hospitals are suffering serious shortages of vital medical equipment such as ventilators, pumps to administer drugs, and oxygen cylinders during the NHS’s ongoing winter crisis, the Guardian can reveal.

Doctors’ and nurses’ leaders voiced alarm at the revelations.
“I’ve heard from several colleagues in acute medicine that their trusts have significant shortages of essential equipment such as bilevel positive airway [BiPaP] ventilators, which are needed in this surge of respiratory illness and IT kit – computers – on extra-capacity wards needed to complete patient records and proceed with [giving] care,” said Dr Nick Scriven, the president of the Society for Acute Medicine.
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“I have also heard about a lack of basic items on extra wards such as blood tubes and cannulae, as well as beds, pillows and bedsheets. When staff have to urgently re-open areas [as temporary wards] and there is literally no kit then there is a panic procurement.”

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ital-equipment

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by denphone

What happened to that old fashioned value of applying clear normal common sense?.

that disappeared after a certain vote a couple of years ago. The public only have themselves to blame.

[tweetiepooh]

Common sense with civil servants?

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

Common sense with civil servants?

Civil servants are an easy and lazy scapegoat. It's the politicians and the people that vote them in that make the money decisions.

Boris accidentally went into an NHS hospital this week and saw how it was for the plebs. Even he was shocked into telling it how it was, only to get sent to naughty step.... Poor Boris.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Civil servants are an easy and lazy scapegoat. It's the politicians and the people that vote them in that make the money decisions.

Boris accidentally went into an NHS hospital this week and saw how it was for the plebs. Even he was shocked into telling it how it was, only to get sent to naughty step.... Poor Boris.

Yep politicians are very good at making sure other scapegoats get the blame when the heat is on as they either quickly do the old quick disappearing act or conveniently go out of the country for a few days until the flak dies down.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Theresa May's focus on immigration number-counting at the expense of our hard-pressed NHS is clearly demonstrated by this.

She should know that UKIP's a spent force and she can now safely put the NHS before immigration red tape box-ticking.

Yes, well our Theresa is not a one-trick pony, and you are forgetting that a lot of people have expressed concerns about the unsustainable level of immigration.

I think I am right in saying that employers can make a case for employing more people from overseas. It was certainly the case just a few years ago, so maybe the NHS have mucked up.

Easier to blame the government, I suppose.

[Taf]

My daughter had an appointment to see a Diabetes Opthalmist last November. It was cancelled with a week to go, and moved to February.

Last week a letter arrived to move that to April.

3 days later another letter said that was moved to July.

Today that has been postponed by phone to September!

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All the NHS nurses I know have left the NHS and returned as agency nurses at much higher rates of pay and better hours.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Yes, well our Theresa is not a one-trick pony, and you are forgetting that a lot of people have expressed concerns about the unsustainable level of immigration.

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She ain't my Theresa in exactly the same way as he ain't my Jeremy either as both are pretty useless IMO.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Easier to blame the government, I suppose.

Well they are the incumbents just like any other party that would be in power and as such people are entitled to have a go at them as if any of the other parties were in power so don't tell me that you would not be blaming them for many a thing.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

She ain't my Theresa in exactly the same way as he ain't my Jeremy either as both are pretty useless IMO.

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Well they are the incumbents just like any other party that would be in power and as such people are entitled to have a go at them as if any of the other parties were in power so don't tell me that you would not be blaming them for many a thing.

People are not 'entitled' to blame the wrong people, Den.

If there's a rule that says an employer can apply for an exemption but the employer doesn't use it, then the fault lies with the employer. Blame the government if you like, but that makes one look a bit daft, don't you think?

Well recently i got to meet my new rheumatologist as my old one an absolutely excellent doctor has retired from the NHS though continues privately and over all the years i have dealt with consultants they always have their preferred medications to treat conditions never before had i had a consultant who stopped a treatment on the grounds of it couldn't be justified financially and other treatments may have to stop as well and offered no alternative. I'm no longer discussing the effect of immigration on the NHS as apparently I'm an ignorant racist which must be true as it was a late teens multi pierced girl telling me at the sametime as wishing my demise would speedup so the young people of this country who were the only one's who had a clue could start fixing everything. It was ironic at the time as i was lamenting at the loss of my asian doctor while stating what a good and honourable man i felt he was.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Well recently i got to meet my new rheumatologist as my old one an absolutely excellent doctor has retired from the NHS though continues privately and over all the years i have dealt with consultants they always have their preferred medications to treat conditions never before had i had a consultant who stopped a treatment on the grounds of it couldn't be justified financially and other treatments may have to stop as well and offered no alternative. I'm no longer discussing the effect of immigration on the NHS as apparently I'm an ignorant racist which must be true as it was a late teens multi pierced girl telling me at the sametime as wishing my demise would speedup so the young people of this country who were the only one's who had a clue could start fixing everything. It was ironic at the time as i was lamenting at the loss of my asian doctor while stating what a good and honourable man i felt he was.

So what you're saying is immigration has been beneficial to the NHS? I agree, we'd be stuffed without it.

Mr K conveniently forgetting there is a WORLD WIDE shortage of nurses as recognised by the W.H.O.

They pinpoint specifically....

A worldwide shortage of nurses has been acknowledged by the multidisciplinary Global Advisory Group of the World Health Organization. The shortage is caused by an increased demand for nurses, while fewer people are choosing nursing as a profession and the current nurses worldwide are aging.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12817393

And this was an issue over a decade ago, probably much worse now. Go figure.