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Old 08-05-2019, 18:06   #571
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Re: Crisis in the NHS

Lol, the order of the headlines in the 6pm news sums this country up.

Main headline:- Royal Baby name (yawn).
Crisis in GP numbers demoted to second...
Which affects us more?
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Old 08-05-2019, 18:40   #572
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Re: Crisis in the NHS

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Lol, the order of the headlines in the 6pm news sums this country up.

Main headline:- Royal Baby name (yawn).
Crisis in GP numbers demoted to second...
Which affects us more?
It's per 100,000 people, so how many people we let into the country is a huge factor.
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While there are more doctors, fewer of them are choosing to work full time, said the Royal College of GPs.
How many are working as locums and will not be included in the figures. How else can they afford to work only part-time?
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It's per 100,000 people, so how many people we let into the country is a huge factor.
How many are working as locums and will not be included in the figures. How else can they afford to work only part-time?
Odd thing is, the people that arrive may well be the Doctors and Nurses we need, but more importantly, the least likely to use the NHS.
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Old 08-05-2019, 19:37   #574
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Odd thing is, the people that arrive may well be the Doctors and Nurses we need, but more importantly, the least likely to use the NHS.
Meaningless. unless the percentage of those that are GPs is more than the existing percentage. The number of GPs per 100,000, which is the measure being used, will go down.
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Meaningless. unless the percentage of those that are GPs is more than the existing percentage. The number of GPs per 100,000, which is the measure being used, will go down.
We're an agieng population, which means we will need more GPs/healthcare. People can't seem to understand this fact, or that we are in desperate need for healthcare professionals, wherever they are from. Other countries are in the same situation, but they are seem the more attractive option for potential recruits atm, wonder why?
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Meaningless. unless the percentage of those that are GPs is more than the existing percentage. The number of GPs per 100,000, which is the measure being used, will go down.
It is the volume of patients each GP has to see. This is down to there not being enough GPs and an ageing population. 2/5 of all NHS use is by people over 65.

Assuming more people is the problem does not actually address the shortage.
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Re: Crisis in the NHS

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We're an agieng population, which means we will need more GPs/healthcare. People can't seem to understand this fact, or that we are in desperate need for healthcare professionals, wherever they are from. Other countries are in the same situation, but they are seem the more attractive option for potential recruits atm, wonder why?
Still irrelevant to a number of GPs per 100,000 measure.


Other countries do have similar problems, but if they are such an attractive option, why are they still having problems?
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72,314 doctors from the EU applied to work elsewhere in the bloc between 1996 and 2016.
24,945 of those came to the UK. That's more than Germany and Sweden combined.
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24,945 of those came to the UK. That's more than Germany and Sweden combined.
Those figure are pre-Brexit vote aren't they?
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Those figure are pre-Brexit vote aren't they?
Still means the UK was a better option than all other EU countries. The accusation was made that other EU countries were more attractive.
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Still means the UK was a better option than all other EU countries. The accusation was made that other EU countries were more attractive.
The UK may have been a better option, but no more. We don't half know how to shoot ourselves in the foot sometimes.
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The UK may have been a better option, but no more. We don't half know how to shoot ourselves in the foot sometimes.
Doctors from outside the EU already find the UK attractive.
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Still means the UK was a better option than all other EU countries. The accusation was made that other EU countries were more attractive.
It wasn't. The suggestion was that other EU countries are not were more attractive.
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Doctors from outside the EU already find the UK attractive.
If we let them in. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8324831.html
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