01-07-2008, 08:15
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#10606
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by R Jones
I wouldn't be too excited unless the ads seem to reflect your browsing "profile" - it could just mean that some oix sites/ads are being served up on sites you visit. It doesn't mean that webwise is live necessarily. Do you have all the various phorm/webwise sites blocked for cookie setting?
But we have been encouraged towards suspicion by the actions of both Phorm and BT so be suspicious - I would be!
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I am blocking it network level and it only way that it worked. bocking webwise.com ona fresh install blcoked about 70% of them. so i decided to block webwise.com and it assicoted ip from my IPCOP urlfilter and block have it translate the DNS to IP and block the ip from OIS level 7 through to 3 and it seems ot have worked i am now gettting zeros ads. i looked at he cookies and they dnt appear to suggest phorm but then again i dnt know what a phorm cookie will involve. The ads that i was getting after fresh install was mostly what i was surfing i even got one about here.
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01-07-2008, 10:46
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#10607
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Privacy_Matters
Can anyone NOT with VM, BT or Talk Talk please PM the above.
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PM
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Originally Posted by Privacy_Matters
I've found where these cookies resolve to - ns-vip3.hitbox.com which is part of the Omniture Network.
Why am I getting their Cookies - and now why are YOU (now confirmed) getting their Cookies?
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I did a lookup on hitbox and do not like their history, even though they have since been purchased by Omniture.
I phoned my credit card company up the other day, after receiving a letter telling me about their wonderful new web portal for card users. I phoned them up to complain about their use of hitbox to track visitors, even on the login page and told the poor guy on the website help desk that there was no way that I would ever use that site because it is not secure.
Needless to say, he did not have a clue what I was talking about.
BTW - some of the BT sites use 2o7 for tracking.
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01-07-2008, 10:52
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#10608
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by madslug
PM
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I did a lookup on hitbox and do not like their history, even though they have since been purchased by Omniture.
I phoned my credit card company up the other day, after receiving a letter telling me about their wonderful new web portal for card users. I phoned them up to complain about their use of hitbox to track visitors, even on the login page and told the poor guy on the website help desk that there was no way that I would ever use that site because it is not secure.
Needless to say, he did not have a clue what I was talking about.
BTW - some of the BT sites use 2o7 for tracking.
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Yes I have been getting a lot of 207 didn't know where they were from so been deleting them every night
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01-07-2008, 11:07
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Shares dropping..
As at 01-Jul-2008 10:50:24 1,050.000 [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] -75.00 -6.67%
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01-07-2008, 11:15
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#10610
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
And that's due to Phorm?
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01-07-2008, 11:24
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by NTLVictim
Shares dropping..
As at 01-Jul-2008 10:50:24 1,050.000 -75.00 -6.67%
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I'm not a betting man but I reckon it's going to hit rock bottom this time (surely they can't play the bogus trial card again)
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Originally Posted by Graham M
And that's due to Phorm?
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Well - yes...
We're quoting the current Phorm share price
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01-07-2008, 11:30
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#10612
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Graham M
And that's due to Phorm?
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Might be the news that a second Yank provider has ditched nebuad.
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01-07-2008, 11:35
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#10613
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by NTLVictim
Might be the news that a second Yank provider has ditched nebuad.
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If you read all the report, probably WOW as well.
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01-07-2008, 11:35
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Paul Delaney
I'm not a betting man but I reckon it's going to hit rock bottom this time (surely they can't play the bogus trial card again)
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Well - yes...
We're quoting the current Phorm share price
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I expect you will find there will be a big reaction to there being yet another freeze out in the US of NebuAD. Phorm's market is shrinking each week which is not going to please potential or existing investors.
Alexander Hanff
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01-07-2008, 12:16
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Florence
Yes I have been getting a lot of 207 didn't know where they were from so been deleting them every night
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I had over 67 in one day from that site - I've blocked 2o7.net in everyway imaginable - BUT now their clients appear to be adding cookies??
I've also noticed other sites with similar content in the cookies, but the cookie name is ACOOKIE.
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01-07-2008, 12:32
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Privacy_Matters
I had over 67 in one day from that site - I've blocked 2o7.net in everyway imaginable - BUT now their clients appear to be adding cookies??
I've also noticed other sites with similar content in the cookies, but the cookie name is ACOOKIE.
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Probably using the same method used by the Google cookies in google-analytics where the cookies are set in the name of the domain. Now that G is starting to use a little of the behavioural targeting in its ads display, there is more reason to block all cookies, and to delete those that get set where a site will only function with cookies enabled.
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01-07-2008, 12:38
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#10617
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by madslug
Probably using the same method used by the Google cookies in google-analytics where the cookies are set in the name of the domain. Now that G is starting to use a little of the behavioural targeting in its ads display, there is more reason to block all cookies, and to delete those that get set where a site will only function with cookies enabled.
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All cookies on my pc are just jumbled numbers, letters and symbles but on which is readable by me it clearly gives my user name which is also an email address, this website is only a gaming website which I have all adverts blocked on.
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01-07-2008, 13:31
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I just wanted to update everyone on Baroness Miller quickly.
As many of you know she was good enough to post to this forum last week in response to the concerns she had received from several of our members and I think it is important to let people know that she hasn't stopped there. Her team is currently in communications with myself and several other people in order to assist her in preparing Parliamentary Questions and to keep her aware of the concerns of the general public.
Clearly she is taking this matter very seriously and will be addressing the Home Office on 17th July; she has also provisionally confirmed she will be attending the Protest on the 16th so long as nothing else comes up.
Earl of Northesk is still very much involved in this issue too and has thrown some more questions at the Home Office.
So I just wanted to update people and let them know that despite things seeming quiet, there is a lot going on in the background and it is all very positive. Personally I would like to thank Baroness Miller and her staff for the time they are putting into this matter.
Alexander Hanff
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01-07-2008, 13:32
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#10619
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I've noticed even the BBC site uses Omniture.
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01-07-2008, 13:36
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#10620
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I have had the latest round of "BERR / ICO / Shriti Vadera" propaganda drop in the mailbox via my MP this morning. The BERR website has this
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If you wish to speak to us about any correspondence that you have received from, or sent to, the Department you can:
Call us on 020 7215 5000
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So I did. I have left a message to speak to someone regarding this and I am going to discuss (assuming they return my call) the interception from the web-site point of view. Is there anything else people would like me to ask / raise if they do get back to me? (If so PM me, so I can keep it together - ta)
If anyone else has received this pack it might be worth making sure they realise how many of us care enough to ring them.
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