All F1 2005 Discussions

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by iadom

Formula 1, too.

Old Bernie will not like this

Still he will have Ferrari racing themselves.

Nice.

Only 17 days, 15 hours 25 minutes to go.

[iadom]

More news here

If it means more of a level playing field then it cannot come soon enough.

PS, this link http://sport.telegraph.co.uk/garside at the bottom of that page has lots of interesting info.

[sherer]

Minardi might not even be at the first race.. because the new rules were finalised so late they couldn't start building their new car until October \ November and so it isn't ready in time.

They want to race with their 04 car but this is based on the old rules and so potentially has more downforce, although it is a Minardi.

All the team have said they can race in the first 3 or 4 races with this car but one. Namely Ferrari, maybe they are worried Minardi will win the race.

Thing is if Minardi aren't there then 2 of the teams will have to field a third car to make up the numbers

Originally Posted by sherer

Minardi might not even be at the first race..

They want to race with their 04 car but this is based on the old rules and so potentially has more downforce, although it is a Minardi.

All the team have said they can race in the first 3 or 4 races with this car but one. Namely Ferrari, maybe they are worried Minardi will win the race.

"Well if *we* have to stick to the rules, so should everyone else...!"

Although looking at some of those links, F1 may end up with Bernie Ecclestone and Ferrari out on their own and everyone else off to the new set-up!

[Matth]

Originally Posted by Graham

"Well if *we* have to stick to the rules, so should everyone else...!"

Although looking at some of those links, F1 may end up with Bernie Ecclestone and Ferrari out on their own and everyone else off to the new set-up!

And a jolly good thing too!

As Minardi proves, however much you mess around with the rules (and this has been an annual event in recent times), even to try to level the field, the teams with the most money will always make the best of any change.

Any alternative formula, should give serious thought to including "success ballast", as in Touring car, and in they case of Ferrari, they would acquire ballast for winning, and stay level or lose ballast for not winning, same for any other team - and one the current seson, not the previous, as the last season's winner isn't always going to be the top dog, though if Ferrari have a good run this year as well, it could be the final nail in the coffin of F1.

To say, "the other teams must catch up" is all very well, but it doesn't make for great racing.

[Hom3r]

I'd like to know what people here think about coverage of ITVs F1 .

I think is CARP they are more interesed in adverts than shown the race, a few years ago i timed the ads breaks (during the race) and it spen 4 mins each and 6 ads that's 24 mins

bear in ming that the average race is 130 mins thats nearly 1/3rd of the race.

(BTW don't get me started on that complete and total ^&^%^ Bernie Ecckleston)

[AndrewJ]

I dont like the 2005 rules, they cant switch tyres, they cant switch the engines its getting stupid.

open up the tracks and even out the rules.

As for the adverts I tend to video f1 then just skip the adverts by as it is damn well stupid. And I thought Sky-One was bad.

[Hom3r]

yes we dvd recorded it and watch it latter

[Matth]

The first race was made interesting after the weather mixed up the qualifying.

I expect to see a return to the usual procession.

Remains to be seen if the "one set of tyres lasts the race" rule actually helps overtaking, with less "helpful" rubber laid down on the racing line, and a lot less "marbles" off it - the track was a lot cleaner!

Just where is F1 going - it's not pushing the technology (other than the best teams clawing back most of downforce the new rules took away), and it's not good racing ... just look at Touring car, or rallycross for a more exciting sport.

Originally Posted by Matth

The first race was made interesting after the weather mixed up the qualifying.

I expect to see a return to the usual procession.

Remains to be seen if the "one set of tyres lasts the race" rule actually helps overtaking, with less "helpful" rubber laid down on the racing line, and a lot less "marbles" off it - the track was a lot cleaner!

Just where is F1 going - it's not pushing the technology (other than the best teams clawing back most of downforce the new rules took away), and it's not good racing ... just look at Touring car, or rallycross for a more exciting sport.

good questions

I would dispute that F1 is not 'pushing the technology' - it is being sent in another direction by the rule changes, but will still push the technology.

- but bring back rallycross I will go with - metro 6r4 rules, I wish I had one

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by homealone

good questions

I would dispute that F1 is not 'pushing the technology' - it is being sent in another direction by the rule changes, but will still push the technology.

- but bring back rallycross I will go with - metro 6r4 rules, I wish I had one

brings back memories of the croft circuit when it was a proper rallycross circuit

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

brings back memories of the croft circuit when it was a proper rallycross circuit

lydden hill, still

[AndrewJ]

Touring cars is good to watch, aint followed the WRC championships much.

Aint the excuse for all these Rules being put onto Formula 1 that it is due to the safety of the drivers?? what is sport if it is not dangerous?

I am sure those WRC cars when they come off at 140mph on a snow track on a mountain run into the trees, they dont come out with new rules year after saying they cant change the tyres or make modifications to the engine because condition has changed?

[paulyoung666]

getting back to the op's subject , ( there is a f1 discussion thread here ) i dont mind itv's coverage , what does annoy me is the amount of adverts , mind you i cant see the bbc getting the coverage back

[ian@huth]

I don't see why they have to have so many advert breaks during F1. They don't have them during play in the Champions League. You don't even get full coverage of all the qualifying sessions now either.