UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal
24-12-2020, 15:51
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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That bit is a real shame to be honest. Erasmus is or was a great thing.
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Yeah, all those foreign students now unable to come to the UK and develop their skills . . . the EU countries must be up in arms about that.
Expect changes to that particular part very soon
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24-12-2020, 16:05
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Yeah, all those foreign students now unable to come to the UK and develop their skills . . . the EU countries must be up in arms about that.
Expect changes to that particular part very soon
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And UK students unable to study in the EU too of course. It's a shame, it's a great system
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24-12-2020, 16:07
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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And UK students unable to study in the EU too of course. It's a shame, it's a great system
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Throwing the baby out with the dishwater? BoJo was talking of a replacement global scheme named after Alan Turin.
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24-12-2020, 16:13
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Looks like there will be a new arbitration body?
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24-12-2020, 16:15
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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And UK students unable to study in the EU too of course. It's a shame, it's a great system
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They're planning to introduce a new scheme for that. As Boris pointed out, the previous scheme was a massive net loss for the UK, as we were funding, etc, hordes from the EU.
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24-12-2020, 16:28
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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You're correct in suggesting he'll be spending quite a bit of time in the courtroom next year.
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24-12-2020, 16:31
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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You're correct in suggesting he'll be spending quite a bit of time in the courtroom next year.
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He might go into hiding in Mexico . . . oh hang on
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24-12-2020, 16:40
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Re: Brexit-UK & EU Agree Post Trade Deal
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24-12-2020, 16:48
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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They're planning to introduce a new scheme for that. As Boris pointed out, the previous scheme was a massive net loss for the UK, as we were funding, etc, hordes from the EU.
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35,524 students and staff coming to the UK = 'hordes'
22,784 UK staff and students going in the other direction
Trying to find the costs at the moment but it seems to be in the tens of millions.
Of course with education it is very difficult to run a profit so I guess it would be a loss but at what intangible value?
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24-12-2020, 16:50
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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35,524 students and staff coming to the UK = 'hordes'
22,784 UK staff and students going in the other direction
Trying to find the costs at the moment but it seems to be in the tens of millions.
Of course with education it is very difficult to run a profit so I guess it would be a loss but at what intangible value?
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So, out of 66 million UK population, we sent 23k.
Out of EU population of 448 million, 36k
The EU has 7 times the population, but sent 1.5 times the students - we were obviously being ripped off...
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24-12-2020, 16:57
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Whilst to me the benefits of leaving the EU are clearly outweighed by the disbenefits, I have to give credit to BoJo for following through on his promise and agreeing a deal with the EU, especially given the ongoing pandemic.
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24-12-2020, 17:03
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I feel a bit of a mullet as I flounder on a scale not before seen. A load of pollocks really.
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24-12-2020, 17:11
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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So, out of 66 million UK population, we sent 23k.
Out of EU population of 448 million, 36k
The EU has 7 times the population, but sent 1.5 times the students - we were obviously being ripped off...
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Not sure I follow. We send proportionally more students to the EU than we receive and the funding for those students comes from a central pot.
However, it's not the funding that is a shame, it is the loss of opportunity to participate in an excellent experience studying abroad. Let's hope that this Turing Scheme is as good or better
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24-12-2020, 17:43
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Not sure I follow. We send proportionally more students to the EU than we receive and the funding for those students comes from a central pot.
However, it's not the funding that is a shame, it is the loss of opportunity to participate in an excellent experience studying abroad. Let's hope that this Turing Scheme is as good or better
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They're planning to introduce a new scheme for that. As Boris pointed out, the previous scheme was a massive net loss for the UK, as we were funding, etc, hordes from the EU.
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Can you explain how it was a massive net loss for the UK, nomadking?
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24-12-2020, 17:44
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Not sure I follow. We send proportionally more students to the EU than we receive and the funding for those students comes from a central pot.
However, it's not the funding that is a shame, it is the loss of opportunity to participate in an excellent experience studying abroad. Let's hope that this Turing Scheme is as good or better
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With freedom of movement ending it would've ended up being a backdoor method to “come in, drop out, and stay in the country”, especially as the EU is looking to heavily increase funding, ie numbers.
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