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muppetman11 · 11-11-2013, 10:57

Frankly couldn't careless who wins what , however if this battle continues it could be BT and Sky themselves who lose out when people get sick of the ever rising bills , services from VM , Talk Talk , Now TV could soon see an influx of people leaving Sky and BT disgruntled over premium sporting costs.

harry_hitch · 11-11-2013, 11:16

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

Frankly couldn't careless who wins what , however if this battle continues it could be BT and Sky themselves who lose out when people get sick of the ever rising bills , services from VM , Talk Talk , Now TV could soon see an influx of people disgruntled over premium sporting costs.

I am sure people will MM. It may take a couple more years to see a real difference though. More and more people will simply stop paying. It is the only way this lunacy will stop.

denphone · 11-11-2013, 11:30

For someone who says l will not go on this thread any more you have a habit of not being able to resist it old boy.

Yes its severals year down the road when the real crunch will come in my opinion and BT and Sky better start heeding the warning signs.

Doug P · 11-11-2013, 11:40

It is the same as BSkyB v Setanta and ESPN only with sillier figures imo.

One of them will win and I would put money on BSkyB...

denphone · 11-11-2013, 11:51

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Originally Posted by Doug P

It is the same as BSkyB v Setanta and ESPN only with sillier figures imo.

One of them will win and I would put money on BSkyB...

You are forgetting in terms of turnover Sky's is £7 billion a year whilst BT's is £18 billion.

Doug P · 11-11-2013, 12:04

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Originally Posted by denphone

You are forgetting in terms of turnover Sky's is £7 billion a year whilst BT's is £18 billion.

Not at all... turnover is not the factor imo.

BSkyB will win as BT over-reach themselves. Convinced. It will take a few years but when the price rises kick in and the customers fade away it will happen.

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As pointed out elsewhere:

BT are already starting to charge for what were previously "free" services eg Caller Display combined with Privacy at Home & 1571. Essentially I see their general charges will increase to pay for this (hitting me as a non BT/Sky subscriber) who will be subsiding them.

Bad time to be a BT customer imo....

johnathome · 11-11-2013, 12:12

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Originally Posted by Doug P

It is the same as BSkyB v Setanta and ESPN only with sillier figures imo.

One of them will win and I would put money on BSkyB...

I think the opposite myself.

However before the next PL rights come up for auction there will be high level meetings as both sides will see the lunacy of ever more money. I can see some collusion going on.

Meanwhile shares in bskyb are down 10% this morning.

Chad · 11-11-2013, 12:14

Even more bad news for SKY:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/b...kets-live.html

"BSkyB plunges 10pc in early trading on Monday after it was announced over the weekend that BT Sport will have the exclusive rights to the UEFA Champions League and Europa League"

Doug P · 11-11-2013, 12:17

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Originally Posted by johnathome

I think the opposite myself.

However before the next PL rights come up for auction there will be high level meetings as both sides will see the lunacy of ever more money. I can see some collusion going on.

Meanwhile shares in bskyb are down 10% this morning.

ten per cent is as would be expected. It does not show any worry in the markets about Sky....

BT are a shoe-in to lose this battle I think. If they refuse to keep the channels in XL after three years they won't get very far with VM customers as far as I can see....

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Share price high for the year is 865p and the low was 830p.

Currently 840p. Not much to worry about for Sky there methinks.

johnathome · 11-11-2013, 12:26

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Originally Posted by Doug P

ten per cent is as would be expected. It does not show any worry in the markets about Sky....

BT are a shoe-in to lose this battle I think. If they refuse to keep the channels in XL after three years they won't get very far with VM customers as far as I can see....

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Share price high for the year is 865p and the low was 830p.

Currently 840p. Not much to worry about for Sky there methinks.

As you say there's nothing to worry about, however, if BT start getting other rights (a couple of golf ones up for renewal next year) then anything could happen.
BT will definitely bid aggressively for more PL packages the next time around as, lets face it, dinnertime on Saturday isn't very good for anyone.
Whenever i've watched a 12.30 game it's because i've been on an all dayer and the pubs aren't particularly busy anyway.

Saturday 5.30 and sunday dinnertime are the premium packages and these are the ones i expect them to go after.

harry_hitch · 11-11-2013, 14:10

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Originally Posted by denphone

For someone who says l will not go on this thread any more you have a habit of not being able to resist it old boy.

Yes its severals year down the road when the real crunch will come in my opinion and BT and Sky better start heeding the warning signs.

I did not say I would not come on here anymore, I said I was out of the for a while, and I did state I wanted to drop the points I was making but I never stated I would not come on this thread "anymore".

Unfortunately, the break was very short lived as I allowed myself to be drawn back into it to reply to some posts where questions were asked of me. I curse myself for writing that statement in anger. But yeah, in the broader terms of what you said, I am far too weak willed for my own good.

Please lets not misquote others on here though, I reacted badly to it yesterday and I have no intentions of reacting that badly again. It detracts from what is good about the forum, and there is plenty good about it. Hence the reason why I continue to come back

denphone · 11-11-2013, 14:35

Some interesting pieces on the BBC website today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/24882293

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24895491

denphone · 11-11-2013, 16:36

Will you be paying more for calls so that BT can offer football fans the chance to watch the Champions League?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/bil...#ixzz2kM6qaswW

11-11-2013, 19:55

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Originally Posted by Doug P

ten per cent is as would be expected. It does not show any worry in the markets about Sky....

BT are a shoe-in to lose this battle I think. If they refuse to keep the channels in XL after three years they won't get very far with VM customers as far as I can see....

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Share price high for the year is 865p and the low was 830p.

Currently 840p. Not much to worry about for Sky there methinks.

1.5 billion quid off value of a company in one day is a lot to think about. Investment tittle tattle is white hot today, conversations along the lines of, if BT win the next premiership rights, Sky are in the crap big time.

muppetman11 · 11-11-2013, 20:07

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Originally Posted by Top banana

1.5 billion quid off value of a company in one day is a lot to think about. Investment tittle tattle is white hot today, conversations along the lines of, if BT win the next premiership rights, Sky are in the crap big time.

I agree Sky's core business is television , its also worth remembering that were BT to snatch the lions share of the Premiership rights they'd have to pay a massive price which in turn can be as risky as losing the rights.