16-07-2008, 21:31
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#11851
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Location: Button Moon
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by madslug
The problem with using a cookie is that the system has to be able to read it. To read it, the system has to intercept the data stream.
The problem with the current system is that the OIX scripts hosted by partner sites is looking for the opt-in/out cookie to decide which advert to display. It reads as though the OIX will be targeting all visitors in some way - using a tracking cookie like the other ad networks? - so the current system relies on finding either a 'webwise cookie' or an 'oix cookie'.
The talk has been of providing a cookie-less variant for the final implementation. The technical details of this will make for some interesting reading. [The same code injection displayed by the 2006/7 trials? - similar to the NebuAd method]
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Only problem with a cookie variant is my router blocks tracking cookies, therefore the cookie system will make phorm fall foul of the law as i wont agree with opting in.
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16-07-2008, 21:40
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#11852
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Inactive
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kent
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
welcome to the 65 guests looking and listening, please log in an make yourself and your opinions known, as well as adding your voice to the debate
there also seems to be a few members i do not recognize, come on speak up
peter
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i have been trying to make sense of the share price movement today, i can only come to one conclusion
shares seem to be like women, nothing about either of them makes sense O(:-)
peter
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16-07-2008, 22:26
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#11853
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Hi,
Long time lurker, but, pretty much a permanent nagger of friends & colleagues. Well done on raising the profile of Phorm at the demo.
I've got 7 Virgin customers plus myself who have informed Virgin that we are leaving the second they have anything to do with Phorm.
Cheers
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16-07-2008, 22:31
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#11854
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Location: Kent
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Xerxes
Hi,
Long time lurker, but, pretty much a permanent nagger of friends & colleagues. Well done on raising the profile of Phorm at the demo.
I've got 7 Virgin customers plus myself who have informed Virgin that we are leaving the second they have anything to do with Phorm.
Cheers
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welcome Xerxes, keep going, the only way the ISP's will listen is when they lose revenue
peter
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16-07-2008, 22:35
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#11855
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Reading Berks
Services: BT Broadband
BT Vision
Sky
Posts: 104
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Xerxes
Hi,
Long time lurker, but, pretty much a permanent nagger of friends & colleagues. Well done on raising the profile of Phorm at the demo.
I've got 7 Virgin customers plus myself who have informed Virgin that we are leaving the second they have anything to do with Phorm.
Cheers
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Xerxes, Keep up the nagging its exactly that attitude that will win the day
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16-07-2008, 22:39
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#11856
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Inactive
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 254
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Welcome Xerxes! Nice of you to join us.
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16-07-2008, 22:45
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#11857
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Inactive
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 231
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
off topic oops wrong thread oops thank you.
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16-07-2008, 22:54
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#11858
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: 127.0.0.1
Age: 59
Posts: 15,868
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Wildie
on a side note if you got a ebay a/c they are opting in all users for ad`s and what not heres what i found opted in by default.
Yes, please use my information to show me relevant ads from eBay's ad network partners.
Yes, please use my information to show me relevant eBay ads on other sites.
so check it if you have a A/C
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The ebay adchoice system is for this thread. Please see http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/25...ng-system.html thank you.
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16-07-2008, 23:12
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#11860
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Inactive
Join Date: May 2008
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
alex how did the evidence go down with the police??
how many flyers did you have to take home, or did you get through the lot?
peter
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16-07-2008, 23:20
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#11861
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Permanently Banned
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,028
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Just got home will post an article on NoDPI in the next hour.
Alexander Hanff
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16-07-2008, 23:30
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#11862
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Inactive
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 4
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Does anyone understand the connection between Phorms major invester, Gestrust SA and it's prime mover Marc Angst (good name), his other strange company Arxiel, and their collection of dubious penny stocks like Identica Holdings Corporation?
I'm still wondering if Phorm was ever meant to be a serious company, or just a penny stock scam.
Odd that Phorm says that it hasn't issued a press release since 15 Apr 08?
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16-07-2008, 23:30
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#11863
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Inactive
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kent
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
just found this on ico website, not seen it before
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Q: I’ve heard that the ICO has gained new powers. When will they come into force? Will you be producing guidance?
The Criminal Justice and Immigration Act has received Royal Assent creating tough new sanctions for the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO).This new legislation gives us the power to impose substantial fines on organisations that deliberately or recklessly commit serious breaches of the Data Protection Act.
The finer details including time scales and amounts to be fined still have to go back to Parliament to be signed off.
We will then be producing guidance on the new powers. Unfortunately, we have not been provided with a timescale. However, we will place more information on our website as matters progress.
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does this mean the ICO "MAY" be given a set of dentures to deal with the likes of BT and phorm
peter
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16-07-2008, 23:34
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#11864
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Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 469
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Great job by all the people who turned up and informed more people about Phorm and the isp's, im one of the people who couldnt go due to commitments but have to say thank you for everything you guys did today.
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16-07-2008, 23:34
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#11865
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Capt Pugwash
Does anyone understand the connection between Phorms major invester, Gestrust SA and it's prime mover Marc Angst (good name), his other strange company Arxiel, and their collection of dubious penny stocks like Identica Holdings Corporation?
I'm still wondering if Phorm was ever meant to be a serious company, or just a penny stock scam.
Odd that Phorm says that it hasn't issued a press release since 15 Apr 08?
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to work that out you need to find out what is happening to all the cash sloshing around in phorm, what purpose is it being used for or is it just sitting gaining interest?, is it being siphoned offf as directors drawings or bonuses?
the next set of interim accounts will be interesting to see out goings and what headings they put what amounts under
the rate of usage of the cash will also give an idea of how long phorm can survive with no income
peter
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