Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
28-02-2021, 10:33
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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I must say this is all incredibly fascinating....
Just be nice to each other is never a bad start. Gender(s) are irrelevant in comparison and a matter for you alone.
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That's easy for you/them/their/him/her/ms/Mr/none/ to say but will it be enough.
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28-02-2021, 11:29
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Heard something the other day which makes sense. The right have largely won the economic arguments (market economy) and the left have largely won the cultural arguments (equality, inclusion, etc).
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What use can be made of that information when taken together?
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28-02-2021, 12:45
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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What use can be made of that information when taken together?
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Make the right messages on culture wars to keep the right-of-centre happy. You can't gain votes by pushing the market economy any more as no one is proposing otherwise, so culture wars is your sweet spot.
Do a small bit of old-fashioned state intervention on industry to keep the left-of-centre happy whilst keeping a largely market economy.
With such an approach, your electoral chances are increased. 
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28-02-2021, 17:12
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Just be nice to each other is never a bad start. Gender(s) are irrelevant in comparison and a matter for you alone.
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Good advice that I agree with, but some want to make it matter for everyone else, and/or get very offended if you don’t bend to their will.
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28-02-2021, 19:05
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
Being polite to others, and using the terms they prefer, is a long way from bending to someone’s will...
ymmv
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28-02-2021, 19:20
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Being polite to others, and using the terms they prefer, is a long way from bending to someone’s will...
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Ymmv, not an abbreviation I was familiar with, and not one that I assign any relevance to.
I have chosen not to participate in the culture war or any post-modernist machinations.........because they are illogical and a waste of my valuable time.
I remain polite.
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28-02-2021, 19:23
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Being polite to others, and using the terms they prefer, is a long way from bending to someone’s will...
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Nope it'll be polite, he or she, him or her, anything other it's their them they, or themselves problem.
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28-02-2021, 23:31
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
Only a problem if you think it is...
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Ymmv, not an abbreviation I was familiar with, and not one that I assign any relevance to.
I have chosen not to participate in the culture war or any post-modernist machinations.........because they are illogical and a waste of my valuable time.
I remain polite.
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Your postings on the subject would evidence otherwise...
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Being polite to others, and using the terms they prefer, is a long way from bending to someone’s will...
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Yep it would seem so but sometimes one can find oneself under attack for not obeying a person's preferred term of address when you have no idea what that form of address is..because they haven't informed you what they prefer. 
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Yep it would seem so but sometimes one can find oneself under attack for not obeying a person's preferred term of address when you have no idea what that form of address is..because they haven't informed you what they prefer. |
Has this ever happened to you? I've been corrected on a personal pronoun use before but I didn't think of myself as being under attack.
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
There's a huge difference between accepted usage and forced usage through the woke campaign.
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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There's a huge difference between accepted usage and forced usage through the woke campaign.
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Can you give me an example of where you've had usage forced upon you by this mysterious woke campaign?
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Has this ever happened to you? I've been corrected on a personal pronoun use before but I didn't think of myself as being under attack.
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Yes or I wouldn't have mentioned it. 
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01-03-2021, 11:16
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
Many years ago I was accused of degendering someone when I referred to them as "they". This was on an anonymous forum with no actually indication of what gender they were. I think it was to provoke a response so I just ignored it.
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01-03-2021, 11:24
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Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
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Yes or I wouldn't have mentioned it. |
Are you able to share the context? I appreciate that you may prefer not to.
The tricky thing I find is that ten years ago, you could work someone's pronouns out from their name, although some names could be both male and female. Now, unless you check beforehand on their Twitter, bio etc, you can't. Fine if you have that information but if it's someone in an audience, it's harder.
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