16-12-2018, 13:04
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Under the Maastricht Treaty, signed in 1992 by the UK, yes, you are - under this treaty, European citizenship was created, allowing citizens to reside in and move freely between Member States.
you may not want to be a EU Citizen, but legally, you are.
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Screw the corrupted Maastricht treaty in which NOONE had a say on thanks to John Major!!!
So no, I will not tell you again - I am not a EU citizen and I will not accept no-one else telling me I am so cease doing so because it is bloody pointless. If I say I am not an EU citizen, I am not- I am a British and nothing else-end of discussion!
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16-12-2018, 13:05
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#5132
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Under the Maastricht Treaty, signed in 1992 by the UK, yes, you are - under this treaty, European citizenship was created, allowing citizens to reside in and move freely between Member States.
you may not want to be a EU Citizen, but legally, you are.
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So when you fill a legal form out that asks nationality you put European then?
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16-12-2018, 13:16
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hom3r
So when you fill a legal form out that asks nationality you put European then?
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English or British depending on the moment.
When people ask you which continent you live on, which one do you tell them?
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16-12-2018, 13:18
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Re: Brexit
I’m gonna put European even after we’ve left. Just to be difficult
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16-12-2018, 13:19
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hom3r
So when you fill a legal form out that asks nationality you put European then?
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Absolutely not - you're first and *ONLY* nationality is the Country you originate from, that is Britain.
As it stands from 29th March 2019, while UK Citizens can relish and celebrate leaving a totally corrupted EU, like me, they can choose to revoke their EU Citizenship, I already have, there is not one piece of paper in my possession that says I am an EU National-this is total bliss.
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16-12-2018, 13:19
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
English or British depending on the moment.
When people ask you which continent you live on, which one do you tell them?
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British Empire.
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16-12-2018, 13:20
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#5137
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Damien
I’m gonna put European even after we’ve left. Just to be difficult
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Then you will have to refill the form again then, it's your time you're wasting, so fill your boots.
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16-12-2018, 13:39
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Theresa May has denied many things before and then gone on to do exactly what she denied. We may not instantly recall her denying that she would not hold an election but the memory of her saying that the vote on her deal would not be postponed is still fresh.
I think Brexiters need to accept the hard facts that there is a possibility of a second referendum...and also that they may not win it. I don't want another referendum to happen but I believe the chances of it happening are steadily growing as shown by recent developments.
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Regarding a 2nd. Referendum:
It would only happen in limited circumstances.
1. TM goes turncoat. Unlikely as it can’t be forced by any constitutional method other than primary legislation.
2. A new government takes over and makes the necessary primary legislation.
Let’s analyse #2. It is possible that the Tories would lose a vote of confidence with TM as PM. In that case the Tories would have 21 days to find a new leader. If a Leaver, would win a vote of confidence; if a Remainer, then anything could happen at the whim of Labour, the DUP and the ERG. If a ‘leaving’ PM, then there will be no 2nd referendum. If a ‘remain’ PM then a 2nd referendum is likely because there would be time to introduce the legislation.
If there is a ‘leave’ Tory PM, there would still be parliamentary chaos if the Remain Tories stiff their party. Another confidence vote round might then ensue and so on until a coalition government emerges. By then it’ll be too late to stop Brexit via the Referendum route due to the time it takes to get it organised.
So it seems to me that we are in no deal territory save for a last minute change of attitude by the EU.
55:45 and nine of this chaos would have happened.
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
English or British depending on the moment.
When people ask you which continent you live on, which one do you tell them?
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What’s that got to do with anything that matters? Road to nowhere this sub-topic.
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16-12-2018, 14:01
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Re: Brexit
TM doesn’t have to go turncoat. She puts her deal to the public in a referendum over no deal. Parliament amends the referendum legislation to include remain.
Last edited by jfman; 16-12-2018 at 14:19.
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16-12-2018, 14:20
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
English or British depending on the moment.
When people ask you which continent you live on, which one do you tell them?
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So should I put Eartling on?
I will never put European on any paperwork.
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16-12-2018, 14:27
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hom3r
So should I put Eartling on?
I will never put European on any paperwork.
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I don't put "human" on any paperwork, but doesn't mean I'm not*..
* opinions may differ on this...
I am a European Citizen, under law, in addition to being a British Citizen.
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16-12-2018, 14:30
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by jfman
She puts her deal to the public in a referendum over no deal
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16-12-2018, 14:35
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Re: Brexit
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You keep posting that offensive emoji, despite being asked not to, yet can’t explain why Theresa May wouldn’t back her deal in a referendum. She genuinely believes it’s the best deal... why not test the theory out?
400 Parliamentarians who want remain couldn’t ignore a referendum that clearly backs her deal. If she wants her deal after losing the vote it’s the only option she has left. Why wouldn’t she use it?
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16-12-2018, 14:41
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Re: Brexit
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You keep posting that offensive emoji, despite being asked not to, yet can’t explain why
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Don't blame the guy, the emoji suits him !
---------- Post added at 14:41 ---------- Previous post was at 14:39 ----------
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh
I don't put "human" on any paperwork, but doesn't mean I'm not*..
* opinions may differ on this...
I am a European Citizen, under law, in addition to being a British Citizen.
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Yes, European even if we leave the EU, you can't change geography as much as some would love us to join onto the United States. Now isn't that a lovely united country !
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16-12-2018, 14:43
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by jfman
TM doesn’t have to go turncoat. She puts her deal to the public in a referendum over no deal. Parliament amends the referendum legislation to include remain.
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If I understand you correctly, if she allows a referendum, she has gone turncoat on her oft repeated statements that there is to be no such thing.
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