Election 2019, Week 1

[jfman]

I haven’t seen anything where the Labour Party official position would be to campaign against it’s own deal. Only that the party would remain neutral, but individuals could campaign as they wished.

The raison d'etre of Brexit is to get rid EU nationals in the workforce. Anything else is speculative.

[nomadking]

Labour are quite happy for the EU to impose certain Labour/Liberal supported types of policies, but are not so happy with certain others eg restraints on State aid.

Basically they want Labour policies regardless of how the UK votes, now or in the future. So much for democracy.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Labour are quite happy for the EU to impose certain Labour/Liberal supported types of policies, but are not so happy with certain others eg restraints on State aid.

Basically they want Labour policies regardless of how the UK votes, now or in the future. So much for democracy.

Much like selling off the profitable parts of the NHS to the USA would be difficult to reverse.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Venezuela here we come.

Keir Starmer in a car crash interview that made Diane Abbot's look like a minor fender bender:



Video and comment on red link above.

Susanna Reid?!? Hardly a John Humphreys.

Is that the one some tory mp was trying to brush of earlier as being edited for time reasons and then in another interview claimed it was a spoof. I can't see why anyone would vote tory based on the last couple of days, old really-smugg blaming people who died in a fire for not having enough common sense to get out and now these berks trying to make mugs out of us again, we've learnt nothing from the last few toxic campaigns and won't until the people say enough is enough

[richard s]

Another Tory bites the dust...


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...g-allegations/

[jfman]

Originally Posted by richard s

Another Tory bites the dust...


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...g-allegations/

And so has Tom Watson! The revolution is coming, comrades!

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by richard s

Another Tory bites the dust...


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...g-allegations/

Paywalled link.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Paywalled link.

Here we go.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50325666

[jfman]

Originally Posted by denphone

Here we go.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50325666

It's the other story the telegraph links to

[Taf]

Labour's Tom Watson QUITS

[Carth]

What about that Green Party eh, pledging £100bn a year to be spent on tackling the climate "emergency", and borrowing £91.2bn a year to make it happen.

I wouldn't mind having a brand new 2019 Jaguar I-PACE, just to help save the planet you know, but I very much doubt I can borrow £60k for one . .

oh well, 05 reg Avensis it is then

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Carth

What about that Green Party eh, pledging £100bn a year to be spent on tackling the climate "emergency", and borrowing £91.2bn a year to make it happen.

I wouldn't mind having a brand new 2019 Jaguar I-PACE, just to help save the planet you know, but I very much doubt I can borrow £60k for one . .

oh well, 05 reg Avensis it is then

What limit would you put on saving the planet? It should be the No1 issue for all parties, unfortunately they only look 5 years ahead, and the electorate look no further than tomorrow. Extinction is well deserved really.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Mr K

What limit would you put on saving the planet? It should be the No1 issue for all parties, unfortunately they only look 5 years ahead, and the electorate look no further than tomorrow. Extinction is well deserved really.

The thing is it's not £100bn sunk. It'll employ people which comes back as tax income. It could support a green sector developing technologies and patents to be a world leader ahead of others in developing economies of scale.

Not going to dispute your last point.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

What limit would you put on saving the planet? It should be the No1 issue for all parties, unfortunately they only look 5 years ahead, and the electorate look no further than tomorrow. Extinction is well deserved really.

But me spending £60k on an electric car is cutting my carbon footprint . . honest.

Anyway, if there's a planet worth saving I guess it's this one . . all we have to do is persuade China and India to cut back their emissions, and tell Brazil they can't chop any more trees down, simples

The UK are, apparently, already ahead of the game compared to other Countries, and strongly worded letters don't do much

Earth will save itself in the end . . but we will all be surplice to requirement by that time

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

I haven’t seen anything where the Labour Party official position would be to campaign against it’s own deal.

Really? Been in the Tora Bora caves have we?

https://www.facebook.com/AndyCarterW...863405?sfns=mo

https://www.facebook.com/42909022449...884225?sfns=mo

Only that the party would remain neutral,

Yeah, of course.

but individuals could campaign as they wished.

well that came out after the Thornberry debacle

The raison d'etre of Brexit is to get rid EU nationals in the workforce. Anything else is speculative.

Yes it was all about running the immigrants out......your either a proponent of such a view or you just want to push it because it suits you.

I would argue people just don’t want to be overseen by Brussels.

Our legislators should be our Parliament. Accountable to us.

Should a government, or other overseeing executive administration, not be accountable to the people?

Should we not be allowed to remove the legislators if we don’t think they’re doing right in our Service?

We can do that’s with our Parliament. We can’t do that with the EU commission though.

They have no accountability to the people, yet devise laws to govern them.

That I feel is much more important than a few Lithuanians rocking up to pick spuds.