Fifa tells referee to call off England game if players wear poppies

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16106626

Fifa has agreed that the England team can wear a poppy on their black armbands during Saturday's match with Spain, the Football Association has confirmed.

so once again cameron can look like a super hero .It reminds of a Yes Minister episode where Jim Hacker is trying to build up his public opinion so takes on a challenge with the Common Market over sausages ,something equally as meaningless

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by martyh

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so once again cameron can look like a super hero .It reminds of a Yes Minister episode where Jim Hacker is trying to build up his public opinion so takes on a challenge with the Common Market over sausages ,something equally as meaningless

It does seem that a Swiss person has to do the Neutral thing

Originally Posted by danielf

I think the sanctimonious outrage that occurs when a public person does not wear a poppy, or when an international sporting body refuses to bend the rules to allow poppies to be worn in an event that is totally unrelated to the poppy appeal amounts to a form of bullying.

Well give me some credit because that's not what I'm saying..The choice is yours and everyone else's not to wear one.My beef is in being told that I can't wear one or that others who want to wear one can't and the excuse given that it's political.It's only political if you make it so.

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Well give me some credit because that's not what I'm saying..The choice is yours and everyone else's not to wear one.My beef is in being told that I can't wear one or that others who want to wear one can't and the excuse given that it's political.It's only political if you make it so.

So why do you support forcing the England players to wear one if it's a matter of choice?

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Well give me some credit because that's not what I'm saying..The choice is yours and everyone else's not to wear one.My beef is in being told that I can't wear one or that others who want to wear one can't and the excuse given that it's political.It's only political if you make it so.

No, I never said you said that, nor did I mean to imply it. It's absolutely fine by if it's on a voluntary basis, but in reality it isn't always. I also think that, to the extent that it's a measure of support for our troops (as said, it means different things to different people), it is a political symbol, and FIFA are right in the ban (until they approved this new mealy-mouthed compromise).

Originally Posted by martyh

So why do you support forcing the England players to wear one if it's a matter of choice?

To be honest if it was permitted and certain players didn't wear it, that player would be vilified for the rest of his career. Not worth it.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Damien

To be honest if it was permitted and certain players didn't wear it, that player would be vilified for the rest of his career. Not worth it.

This is it. It's such a mixed symbol of respect for the fallen and support for troops, that people get villified for not showing the first and end up doing the second when they may have misgivings about it.

Originally Posted by Damien

To be honest if it was permitted and certain players didn't wear it, that player would be vilified for the rest of his career. Not worth it.

That is true ,but having the poppy embroiderd or transfered onto the shirt is forcing the player to wear a poppy thus removing the freedom a poppy is suppose to represent to some

[Arthurgray50@blu]

ALL players should wear the famous poppy, my only gripe with the England squad is that when the anthem is playing - how players will be singing it - not very many.

Anyway I reckon that if they got a cut of the Poppy Appeal funds Fifa would fall over backwards to allow the wearing of poppies..

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

ALL players should wear the famous poppy, my only gripe with the England squad is that when the anthem is playing - how players will be singing it - not very many.

The fallen fought for the right to choose, not the right to be made to wear something - get real, Arthur.

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by Hugh

The fallen fought for the right to choose, not the right to be made to wear something - get real, Arthur.

Too right.....

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Hugh

The fallen fought for the right to choose, not the right to be made to wear something - get real, Arthur.

Indeed