Brexit

[jfman]

It won’t allow no deal. If the new PM wants to take that risk then I welcome it. The sooner we have a second referendum, and a Labour government the better.

Originally Posted by jfman

It's a long time between now and October. Parliament has plenty of time.

It really isn’t. The Commons is on its Whitsun recess at the moment, the summer recess happens from late July to early September and conference season recess is from mid September until early October. There are far fewer sitting days than you might think, and in any case I would be surprised if those Tory backbenchers who previously helped parliament take over its own timetable will be so ready to do so against the authority of a newly elected leader.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Chris

It really isn’t. The Commons is on its Whitsun recess at the moment, the summer recess happens from late July to early September and conference season recess is from mid September until early October. There are far fewer sitting days than you might think, and in any case I would be surprised if those Tory backbenchers who previously helped parliament take over its own timetable will be so ready to do so against the authority of a newly elected leader.

A vote of no confidence doesn’t require many sitting days. The new leader will have less authority than May, not more.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

It won’t allow no deal. If the new PM wants to take that risk then I welcome it. The sooner we have a second referendum, and a Labour government the better.

Parliament can't prevent a 'no deal' when the time runs out.

Glad you finally admitted that you would like to have a dangerous Marxist in power, jfman, after previously portraying yourself as a centrist!

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Originally Posted by jfman

A vote of no confidence doesn’t require many sitting days. The new leader will have less authority than May, not more.

If it is a Brexiteer (almost a certainty) then the new PM will at least have the backing of the DUP and ERG, which is more than Theresa May did!

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Parliament can't prevent a 'no deal' when the time runs out.

Glad you finally admitted that you would like to have a dangerous Marxist in power, jfman, after previously portraying yourself as a centrist!

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If it is a Brexiteer (almost a certainty) then the new PM will at least have the backing of the DUP and ERG, which is more than Theresa May did!

Watching the worst Government in living memory throw the country off a cliff it’s obvious we need an alternative. Whether in or out of the EU the Conservatives continue to fiddle while Rome burns. There’s enough opposition to Corbyn in his own party the more creative elements of his manifesto would never happen anyway.

Parliament obviously can’t prevent no deal when time runs out, as time travel hasn’t yet been invented, however you continue to make the incorrect assumption Parliament has no options.

The backing of the DUP/ERG comes at a cost in the middle.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

Watching the worst Government in living memory throw the country off a cliff it’s obvious we need an alternative. Whether in or out of the EU the Conservatives continue to fiddle while Rome burns. There’s enough opposition to Corbyn in his own party the more creative elements of his manifesto would never happen anyway.

Parliament obviously can’t prevent no deal when time runs out, as time travel hasn’t yet been invented, however you continue to make the incorrect assumption Parliament has no options.

A 'no deal' is not like jumping off a cliff. It is like opening a door to bright new horizons and limitless opportunities.

Far too bright for your eyes, jfman. Better dig yourself a hole. It'll be nice, dark, and depressing in there, just as you like it.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

A 'no deal' is not like jumping off a cliff. It is like opening a door to bright new horizons and limitless opportunities.

Far too bright for your eyes, jfman. Better dig yourself a hole. It'll be nice, dark, and depressing in there, just as you like it.

So bright we are trying to avoid it like the plague? If it was sunshine and light we’d have been out on March 31, and Theresa would have had 8 months to bask in the sun before a further leadership challenge. Obviously, it’d have gone so well she’d have won that too. All while the country she loves adores her for such a magnificent move.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

So bright we are trying to avoid it like the plague? If it was sunshine and light we’d have been out on March 31, and Theresa would have had 8 months to bask in the sun before a further leadership challenge. Obviously, it’d have gone so well she’d have won that too. All while the country she loves adores her for such a magnificent move.

That's all down to the negativity of the remainers who refuse to accept the referendum result.

It's about time you remainers started considering the disbenefits of being part of the EU, such as the damage they intend to do to the NHS.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/66...jXnEHNEjC52kMk

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

That's all down to the negativity of the remainers who refuse to accept the referendum result.

It's about time you remainers started considering the disbenefits of being part of the EU, such as the damage they intend to do to the NHS.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/66...jXnEHNEjC52kMk

As opposed to the damage the USA want to do to the NHS by privatising it in a trade deal?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

As opposed to the damage the USA want to do to the NHS by privatising it in a trade deal?

Assuming we were to accept that, jfman. If we are an independent trading nation, we can do deals that are to our benefit. As part of the EU, we will be meek bystanders who would be ignored if we protested.

[jfman]

We are meek bystanders in any trade deals we enter, because everyone knows we have none. Your emotive terminology is worthless.

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

That's all down to the negativity of the remainers who refuse to accept the referendum result.

It's about time you remainers started considering the disbenefits of being part of the EU, such as the damage they intend to do to the NHS.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/66...jXnEHNEjC52kMk

I don't think anyone on here or any 'remainers' I know refuse to accept the referendum result. They just have a different opinion to you on what Brexit means.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Mythica

I don't think anyone on here or any 'remainers' I know refuse to accept the referendum result. They just have a different opinion to you on what Brexit means.

Had he been attention I’ve proposed before that “no deal” Brexit should be a five to ten year process. So if his Article 24 views were correct I’d be at the front of the queue to say it’s a good idea. It’s not viable though.

Originally Posted by jfman

A vote of no confidence doesn’t require many sitting days. The new leader will have less authority than May, not more.

I’m curious whether you can cite any examples to back this up (I.e. I sincerely doubt that you can).

There will be an election this time, and the entire party membership will select the leader from the shortlist of 2 presented them by the parliamentary party. Quite how you reason that this will result in a lessening of leadership authority in any circumstances is unclear to say the least; in this case, as the new Tory leader will be replacing one whose failure is historic in magnitude, your claim is just bizarre.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

As opposed to the damage the USA want to do to the NHS by privatising it in a trade deal?

Here we go. You’ve done very well over the months passing yourself off as a middle of road left of centre type person. When it’s clear you’re most likely a fully paid up momentum member and Corbyn sycophant.