Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders

[Angua]

Daftest part is, all they have done is take the Mr/Mrs off the main headline. The name Mr is still on the packaging.

Still the anti Woke have had a lovey time venting their spleens and given a bunch of free advertising to Hasbro.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Or, the "anti-woke" brigade

I don't think there is an anti-woke brigade, just a common-sense brigade

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

Why does it outrage you? It's a commercial decision to widen the customer base for vegetable based plastic toys. At worst it will do nothing and at best, there will be more customers.

I am struggling to see the harm here to be honest

Well, your response is not unreasonable.

I'm simply jumping on the woke concept, and taking the "Mr" off "Potato" is another notch for the woke brigade.

[jfman]

I’m drawing the line when Little Miss Bossy goes on strike for equal pay and Mr Indecisive becomes non-binary.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by jfman

I’m drawing the line when Little Miss Bossy goes on strike for equal pay and Mr Indecisive becomes non-binary.

I feel it's time for me to chip in and say lets not start mashing up genders.

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I'm simply jumping on the woke concept, and taking the "Mr" off "Potato" is another notch for the woke brigade.

It is a good question - are we as a society not discriminating any more or can we do better? If we can do better, how can that be done without invoking weaponised terms like 'woke'. It's an argument I am sure has been going on for many years, back to the 'no blacks, no irish' days and before.

'Women getting the vote, whatever next'....

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

It is a good question - are we as a society not discriminating any more or can we do better? If we can do better, how can that be done without invoking weaponised terms like 'woke'. It's an argument I am sure has been going on for many years, back to the 'no blacks, no irish' days and before.

'Women getting the vote, whatever next'....

I don't think you're right there.

There is a difference between virtue signalling which possibly disguises the profit motive, and proper behaviour and tolerance of all human beings (except the woke!).

Woke-ism has gone beyond all bounds of sense and reasonableness. No-platforming; excision of our history and associated vandalism; Churchill was a murderer, etc. "They". It's too much.

"Excision of our history"?

There is no excision of history, just a fuller re-telling, which includes the bits some people would rather not have discussed, as it doesn’t show our past in the idealised light they would prefer...

An example would be the Battle of Britain - because most people’s idea of the BoB is what they have seen in British films of the 50s and 60s (and the Biggles etc. books), and the "Commando"-type comics of the 60s and 70s, they believe that the BoB was won by the upper-middle class English officers, with some support from working-class Scottish or Cockney mechanics.

The facts are that 20% of BoB pilots were from outside the U.K.(half of those from Europe), 5 of the 10 leading "Aces" during the BoB were from outside the U.K., and 1/3 of the pilots were Sergeant Pilots, from the working & middle classes.

Also, Hurricanes shot down more German planes than the Spitfire.

This isn’t excising the efforts made by Spitfires and the Officers who piloted them, just showing a fuller picture.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

"Excision of our history"?

There is no excision of history, just a fuller re-telling, which includes the bits some people would rather not have discussed, as it doesn’t show our past in the idealised light they would prefer...

An example would be the Battle of Britain - because most people’s idea of the BoB is what they have seen in British films of the 50s and 60s (and the Biggles etc. books), and the "Commando"-type comics of the 60s and 70s, they believe that the BoB was won by the upper-middle class English officers, with some support from working-class Scottish or Cockney mechanics.

The facts are that 20% of BoB pilots were from outside the U.K.(half of those from Europe), 5 of the 10 leading "Aces" during the BoB were from outside the U.K., and 1/3 of the pilots were Sergeant Pilots, from the working & middle classes.

Also, Hurricanes shot down more German planes than the Spitfire.

This isn’t excising the efforts made by Spitfires and the Officers who piloted them, just showing a fuller picture.

What gender were the planes ?

and the greatest question in aviation history, was Enola gay?

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I don't think you're right there.

There is a difference between virtue signalling which possibly disguises the profit motive, and proper behaviour and tolerance of all human beings (except the woke!).

Woke-ism has gone beyond all bounds of sense and reasonableness. No-platforming; excision of our history and associated vandalism; Churchill was a murderer, etc. "They". It's too much.

Yeah, it's 'where is the line' that's the big question. People like to trade in absolutes. Using your example Churchill, he was a great wartime leader but not faultless or beyond reproach. His actions during the Bengal famine for example were pretty poor.

History should be reviewed, not put in a box and that's that. If a review of history uncovers or highlight uncomfortable truths then we need a discussion on how we handle this. Challenging our perception of history is a worthwhile exercise. How we react to what we might find is the challenge

Originally Posted by papa smurf

What gender were the planes ?

and the greatest question in aviation history, was Enola gay?

Your contribution, as always, is noted - the forum wouldn’t be the same without you to keep balance with the informative posts...

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Surely that's just normal people, i see wokies as abnormal bordering on the offensive.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

What gender were the planes ?

and the greatest question in aviation history, was Enola gay?

Bi, she fecked a lot of people...

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Originally Posted by Hugh

"Excision of our history"?

There is no excision of history, just a fuller re-telling, which includes the bits some people would rather not have discussed, as it doesn’t show our past in the idealised light they would prefer...

An example would be the Battle of Britain - because most people’s idea of the BoB is what they have seen in British films of the 50s and 60s (and the Biggles etc. books), and the "Commando"-type comics of the 60s and 70s, they believe that the BoB was won by the upper-middle class English officers, with some support from working-class Scottish or Cockney mechanics.

The facts are that 20% of BoB pilots were from outside the U.K.(half of those from Europe), 5 of the 10 leading "Aces" during the BoB were from outside the U.K., and 1/3 of the pilots were Sergeant Pilots, from the working & middle classes.

Also, Hurricanes shot down more German planes than the Spitfire.

This isn’t excising the efforts made by Spitfires and the Officers who piloted them, just showing a fuller picture.

Would that be because there were more hurricanes than spitfires...

Yes, but that’s not what is seen as ‘history" - the Spitfire is seen as the main reason we won the BoB, rather than the reality.

Who Shot Liberty Valance - "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend".

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Bi, she fecked a lot of people...

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Would that be because there were more hurricanes than spitfires...

No. The officers flew the Spitfires and the flight sergeants flew the Hurricanes.


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Originally Posted by Hugh

Yes, but that’s not what is seen as ‘history" - the Spitfire is seen as the main reason we won the BoB, rather than the reality.

Who Shot Liberty Valance - "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend".

No surprise, really when the legendary ME109 pilot, Adolf Galland, when asked by Goering what he needed, said "Herr Reichsmarschall, a squadron of Spitfires!".

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...d-1318925.html