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[popper]

Originally Posted by flowrebmit

Isn't publishing a letter in full against the Copyright of the Author or Company that the letter writer works for unless you've sought permission?

if they in their original request for information made it known they were going to publish any response then No.

a simple 'i reserve the right to publish any response in part or whole' should be enough to cover that (if they dont reject that in response) in your letters it seems.

i have for instance, explicitly asked for, and receaved permission from 'the register' to re-post all or part of any story they put out, providing i link to the original, i dont make it a habit to include all the story as a rule though.

[CaptJamieHunter]

Originally Posted by flowrebmit

Isn't publishing a letter in full against the Copyright of the Author or Company that the letter writer works for unless you've sought permission?

Had the letter said "IN CONFIDENCE" or used some such similar wording then I would have paraphrased its contents. It didn't. In my view there is nothing in the letter which constitues requiring commercial confidentiality.

If the moderators feel otherwise then I will, of course, accept their judgement.

[lucevans]

Originally Posted by ceedee

Hey, at least BT Retail have a forum in which they're willing to discuss the issue with their customers!
VM can't even be bothered to revise their three-week-old, error-ridden statement!

And, particularly as a Virgin Media employee, how do you feel about VM "stealing our personal information"?
Shouldn't you be calling for VM customers to leave too?

If you check Kellargh's profile, you'll notice that he/she uses everyone but VM for his/her services. Given that VM employees usually get a discount on VM services, I think that speaks volumes

[Toto]

Originally Posted by lucevans

More good news....
Phorm shares down another 9% today

Er...yeh, possibly, but I suspect down in terms of the overall market performance, not about what Phorm are doing themselves.

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Originally Posted by lucevans

If you check Kellargh's profile, you'll notice that he/she uses everyone but VM for his/her services. Given that VM employees usually get a discount on VM services, I think that speaks volumes

Unless he doesn't live in a cabled part of Swansea.

[lucevans]

Originally Posted by Toto

Er...yeh, possibly, but I suspect down in terms of the overall market performance, not about what Phorm are doing themselves.

You're probably right, but we can always hope...

Unless he doesn't live in a cabled part of Swansea.

Point taken

[Tightscot]

dunno if this has been posted, but phorm is illegal apparently...Linkage

[lucevans]

Originally Posted by Tightscot

dunno if this has been posted, but phorm is illegal apparently...Linkage

That's the opinion of the FIPR - apparently Kent Ertugrul has said he's happy for his company's claims that Phorm is legal to be tested in a UK court, so there may be a legal battle looming on the horizon - I wonder if the system will be suspended pending the result (assuming it launches soon)?

[MetaWraith]

Link to similar article on El Reg
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03..._fipr_illegal/

[Toto]

Originally Posted by lucevans

You're probably right, but we can always hope...

Here, here

[flowrebmit]

Originally Posted by CaptJamieHunter

Had the letter said "IN CONFIDENCE" or used some such similar wording then I would have paraphrased its contents. It didn't. In my view there is nothing in the letter which constitues requiring commercial confidentiality.

If the moderators feel otherwise then I will, of course, accept their judgement.

Thanks, I guess I am just feeling a little bit more paranoid than usual.

[lucevans]

I've just read the open letter to the Information Commissioners Office from the FIPR : http://www.fipr.org/080317icoletter.html
I think Mr. Ertugrul has a fight on his hands now...

[soup@spoon]

as i like to view, free porn site's online.
will i get lot's of ads for free porn sites.
and maybee paid to view them,???

[Stuart]

Apparently, they won't be carrying porn...

[manxminx]

http://www.fipr.org/080317icoletter.html

Excellent letter. Brilliant! It addresses the concerns that I, as a webowner of a members only forum, have. Actually, I think that the FIPR, in writing their letter, used the questions and worries that are expressed on both this thread and the BT forum one

One by one, the nails are being driven into the Phorm coffin.

The day we celebrate the funeral is getting nearer.

[JackSon]

Who runs a PR company confident enough to take on Sir Tim Berners-Lee regarding the internet and the FIPR regarding information policies? If you do, expect a call from Phorm tonight!