Formula 1 2008 Season

[papa smurf]

[QUOTE=homealone;34522429]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

looks like the telemetry doesn't agree

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/66448

The media would like nothing better than a feud between Hamilton & Alonso, but I think we have to be wary of that - Martin Brundle did only call what he saw, but didn't appear to give Alonso much in the way of the benefit of the doubt??

I have to say I agreed with him, at the time

in that case i withdraw my allegation, must say it looked a little to convenient for it to be accidental, and given alonso's past dirty tricks my blood pressure went up thru the roof

[Chorlton]

I might just be being cynical but don't all teams employ tech gurus, and is it possible to 'adjust' data - seems to be done in every other industry/walk of life to suit the circumstances.
I'm sure someone will point out this is impossible to do - but so was flying at one time (for man anyway)

[Cobbydaler]

Well, Hamilton's blown it by running into the back of Raikkonen in the pit lane...

[Hom3r]

The accident is to be investigated after the race.

Taking bets that FIA (Ferrari International Assistance) try an ban him from a race or two.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

The accident is to be investigated after the race.

Taking bets that FIA (Ferrari International Assistance) try an ban him from a race or two.

max will probably send a couple of storm troopers round

[Woolly One]

Just wait for tomorrows Sports pages -

Lewis does a boris

- insert picture of Boris Johnson cycling through red light -

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

Well, Hamilton's blown it by running into the back of Raikkonen in the pit lane...

Bizarre incident, I've only seen it a couple of times, but I almost thought Lewis was accelerating when he hit Raikkonen ???

Well done Kubica, I still can't believe he survived that crash, last year, so a testament to his guts, as well as his ability, imo

Good result for David Coulthard, too - but Massa's opportunistic overtaking manoeuvres were the highlight of the race for me - such a shame Ferrari messed up his pit stop ....

[Cobbydaler]

Originally Posted by homealone

Bizarre incident, I've only seen it a couple of times, but I almost thought Lewis was accelerating when he hit Raikkonen ???

He wasn't watching the pit lane lights which stay at red until the pace car has cleared the pit area. He thought he could just accelerate back into the race as normal, whereas Kimi was obeying the traffic signals...

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

He wasn't watching the pit lane lights which stay at red until the pace car has cleared the pit area. He thought he could just accelerate back into the race as normal, whereas Kimi was obeying the traffic signals...

aye, but it almost looked like, for a split second, he thought 'they have slowed down, I'll go past them' - and then realised, too late, they had actually stopped ???

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by homealone

aye, but it almost looked like, for a split second, he thought 'they have slowed down, I'll go past them' - and then realised, too late, they had actually stopped ???

Yeah thats what I thought

[johnnyposs]

Lewis Hamilton has been penalised for the pitlane crash, he will drop 10 places
in the next race in France.

[punky]

I don't really follow F1, but a newbie thought came to me: Does Raikkonen get any compensation? Or his team?

Originally Posted by punky

I don't really follow F1, but a newbie thought came to me: Does Raikkonen get any compensation? Or his team?

At least as much as Sutil got, a couple of weeks ago, presumably ??

[keithwalton]

I'm impressed the stewards that are supposed to attend every race to ensure everyone gets the same treatment obviously favour ferrari ...

Kimi hits Sutil from behind and is able to continue whilst sutil is knocked out of the race - Kimi recieves no penalty.
Lewis hits Kimi and takes them both out of the race and get a 10 place grid penalty.
Nico hits Lewis but continues in the race whilst lewis doesn't, Nico gets a 10 place grid penalty.

Same offences, different punishments. Yes lewis was silly down the pitlane he did see the red light just to late to stop properly, as well he had 1 car legnth less stopping distance than the other two.
On a side note, kimi should not of been on the left, your supposed to wait in single file, so technically kimi should not of been there for lewis to hit! But i'm sure he wont get punished!

As for compensation no he doesn't get any, though I bet force india would like some free engines!

[tcbass]

Originally Posted by keithwalton

I'm impressed the stewards that are supposed to attend every race to ensure everyone gets the same treatment obviously favour ferrari ...

Kimi hits Sutil from behind and is able to continue whilst sutil is knocked out of the race - Kimi recieves no penalty.
Lewis hits Kimi and takes them both out of the race and get a 10 place grid penalty.
Nico hits Lewis but continues in the race whilst lewis doesn't, Nico gets a 10 place grid penalty.

Same offences, different punishments. Yes lewis was silly down the pitlane he did see the red light just to late to stop properly, as well he had 1 car legnth less stopping distance than the other two.
On a side note, kimi should not of been on the left, your supposed to wait in single file, so technically kimi should not of been there for lewis to hit! But i'm sure he wont get punished!

As for compensation no he doesn't get any, though I bet force india would like some free engines!

By that reasoning Lewis should have had a penalty for driving up the back of Alonso in Bahrain.
Not to mention every other driver that has ever driven into the back of another car, they'll be busy after those first corner incidents.

The two incidents are fundamentally different as Kimi's (and Lewis in Bahrain for that matter) was an racing incident i.e. an accident that happens from time to time. Kimi had lost control of the car way before he hit Sutil.

This one was not an racing incident, Lewis said so himself. They weren't even racing at the time as they were stationary when he drove straight into the back of them, and would not have happened if Lewis hadn't been driving with his eyes shut.

The penalties are given if the stewards deem the incident to have been the sole fault of the driver alone and wholly avoidable.

Lets just face it he screwed up big time, drove into the back of someone completely unnecessarily and got the penalty consistently handed out in these situations.

Listening to ITV and the way James ****ing Alan was going on it was Kimis fault for stopping for the red light.
"They hit each other" - Newer heard such drivel, Lewis hit Kimi and he managet that one all on his own thank you!