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AlexanderHanff · 07-08-2008, 16:22

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Originally Posted by phpscott

That is good news Alex, both about the exam and the registerd charity. If there is anyway that I can be of help please let me know.
The longer this goes on the more a long term solution is needed, not just for DPI but for many other Privacy Issues as well.

Well the plan was always to try and expand the focus onto other online privacy issues such as tracking cookies, adware etc. Initially we will continue to concentrate on Phorm and start to expand to cover other similar companies like NebuAd and Front Porch. Ideally we would like to spend some of our time lobbying and the big advantage of being a registered charity is that we will have the opportunity to fund raise more effectively which in turn will allow us to do more and more.

It is still in the preliminary stages as it takes a lot of work getting everything setup but I will be sure to keep everyone updated.

I am also planning to work closely with the Lib Dems after the summer recess; they will be doing a report on these issues and putting some long needed party focus on the entire debate.

Alexander Hanff

07-08-2008, 16:27

Congratulations Alex on your exams, the charitable status for Privacy Online and for your 1,000th post.

Rchivist · 07-08-2008, 16:30

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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

Well the plan was always to try and expand the focus onto other online privacy issues such as tracking cookies, adware etc. Initially we will continue to concentrate on Phorm and start to expand to cover other similar companies like NebuAd and Front Porch. Ideally we would like to spend some of our time lobbying and the big advantage of being a registered charity is that we will have the opportunity to fund raise more effectively which in turn will allow us to do more and more.

It is still in the preliminary stages as it takes a lot of work getting everything setup but I will be sure to keep everyone updated.

I am also planning to work closely with the Lib Dems after the summer recess; they will be doing a report on these issues and putting some long needed party focus on the entire debate.

Alexander Hanff

Good - I hope to see my LD MP at a surgery sometime over the summer, she is a signatory to EDM but I feel the LD's in the commons are not yet REphormed in the way that the peers in the Lords are.

Congrats on the exam and good to hear about the charity! Hope the documents were useful.

Don't forget to mention the BT situation as regards forums when you do your briefing. Not for discussion here (OT - Hello mods) but if you want more info PM me.

warescouse · 07-08-2008, 17:38

Why is it when bad news hits the airwaves from Phorm's point of view, the circular Phorm arguments appear, designed to dilute the discussion, from the pro Phorm PR?

Congratulations on the exam success Alex. Good luck with everything else also. You're doing a great Job all round!

Dephormation · 07-08-2008, 18:33

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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

Your sig would probably be classed as PII but I doubt very much that Phorm have implimented a "filter" for it. It would be impossible for Phorm to cover all the bases there are so many illnesses, disabilities, religions, sexual preferences, political preferences etc. etc. that it would literally be impossible to guarantee that no PII data would ever be picked up by the system.

(No offense by the way it was just a timely example to use; my missus is dyslexic to.)

Alexander Hanff

Hi Axle,

That's an interesting point. While I was preparing these notes it struck me, you could be at risk of identification from simple typos in data.

Even if you believe Phorm were capable of filtering out all PII (and it isn't, the anonymising process is a hoax).

It would be impossible to filter out typos. Which would worry me if I was dyslexic, and reliant on assurances from Kent Errtsadgs.

Peat.

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SMHarman · 07-08-2008, 19:48

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Originally Posted by Frank Rizzo

The ICO would see different. If the solicitors or brokers were LTD or LLP then the IP address assigned to the business would not be for a living individual and they would not investigate.

I would really like to see Struan Robertson's view on this

Solicitors are usually partnerships, not LLPs that means they are not really body corporates, just a group of people trading together.

phormwatch · 07-08-2008, 19:50

Congrats on the Exam, Alex.

Andrewcrawford23 · 07-08-2008, 20:08

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Originally Posted by Dephormation

Hi Axle,

That's an interesting point. While I was preparing these notes it struck me, you could be at risk of identification from simple typos in data.

Even if you believe Phorm were capable of filtering out all PII (and it isn't, the anonymising process is a hoax).

It would be impossible to filter out typos. Which would worry me if I was dyslexic, and reliant on assurances from Kent Errtsadgs.

Peat.

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So basically i am at mroe risk of getting ads or worse getting tracked?

oh i really need ot update that signature a bit

D_Advocate · 07-08-2008, 20:56

It appears that there was a brief (about an hour), but major outage at the Kingston exchange (kt1 - RAS?) during the last 24 hours ...

http://www.internettrafficreport.com/history/304.htm

(thanks to Don on bt.broadband.support).

Of course this could just be a coincidence, and of course I'm not making any assumptions, but ..

D_A

buckleb · 07-08-2008, 21:02

You have an extra http// in your link (the second one)

Raistlin · 07-08-2008, 21:05

Fixed.

D_Advocate · 07-08-2008, 21:07

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Originally Posted by cadire

You have an extra http// in your link (the second one)

Oops - thanks for pointing that out

Now corrected - thanks Rob.

D_A

SelfProtection · 07-08-2008, 21:17

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Originally Posted by D_Advocate

It appears that there was a brief (about an hour), but major outage at the Kingston exchange (kt1 - RAS?) during the last 24 hours ...

http://www.internettrafficreport.com/history/304.htm

(thanks to Don on bt.broadband.support).

Of course this could just be a coincidence, and of course I'm not making any assumptions, but ..

D_A

I'll keep that in mind, just like the other info & weigh up the balance of probabilities as I go along.

OldBear · 07-08-2008, 21:20

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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

(Quick note to everyone else - I passed my exam

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Well done, Alex.

Look forward to hearing more about Privacy Online; sounds interesting.

OB

Rchivist · 07-08-2008, 21:24

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Originally Posted by SMHarman

Solicitors are usually partnerships, not LLPs that means they are not really body corporates, just a group of people trading together.

Same with vets in practice - they have to form partnerships not "companies", and partners in law are individuals, jointly and severally liable for one anothers personal actions and even debts - which would give the ICO something to think about.

Just another example of something that due diligence would have thought through when they sought, er... obtain... legal opin... er um advice. You would have thought.