17-07-2008, 11:58
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#11941
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bristol
Services: Aquiss.net and loving it.
No more Virgin Media, no more Virgin Phone, no more Virgin Mobile.
Posts: 629
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Quick check of some of the co-hosted domains
webwise.bt.com, www.webwise.com, www.phorm.com, all down
Also the 'cookie serving' domain a.webwise.net, I'm seeing nothing in response to ping.
Curious. Perhaps they don't want BT shareholders to see?
I wonder if the USA 'mirror' site (in PSInet) is still here.
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17-07-2008, 12:00
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#11942
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 174
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dephormation
Quick check of some of the co-hosted domains
webwise.bt.com, www.webwise.com, www.phorm.com, all down
Also the 'cookie serving' domain a.webwise.net, I'm seeing nothing in response to ping.
Curious. Perhaps they don't want BT shareholders to see?
I wonder if the USA 'mirror' site (in PSInet) is still here.
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Another 121Media/Phorm re-branding exercise, maybe?
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17-07-2008, 12:00
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#11943
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Inactive
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Middlesbrough
Age: 61
Services: Cable Modem 60MB
2 TiVo Box's one, 1TB the other 500GB
Plus Phone from NTL
Posts: 375
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtechs
same, but I was thinking raid by ICO/Police..
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Now that would make my Day.
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17-07-2008, 12:07
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#11944
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 174
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
They're back
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17-07-2008, 12:18
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#11945
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 831
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Privacy_Matters
They're back
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And they're better - they're more glitzy - they've got more spin!
And they've got logos on again - well - 2 anyway, TalkTalk and BT.
It's a relaunch?
Now does this mean that the ISP's have given Kent the go ahead to put their logos back, or is he doing what he's done before - paddling his own canoe and hoping the ISP's will swim along in his rather turbulent PR wake?
Second - I got my first new poster on BT Beta Forums as a result of all your efforts yesterday. She's furious!! (with BT, not you lot!)
Third - as predicted yesterdays late sales coming through - £700K's worth at 714.55p, well below what the small purchases were yesterday and today.
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17-07-2008, 12:20
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#11946
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 174
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I think theres been a change to the Source on webwise.bt.com, anyone confirm this?
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anomaly 2:
Just typed phorm.com, and it loaded as http://bt.phorm.com/
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17-07-2008, 12:31
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#11947
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 831
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Privacy_Matters
I think theres been a change to the Source on webwise.bt.com, anyone confirm this?
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anomaly 2:
Just typed phorm.com, and it loaded as http://bt.phorm.com/
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Did you mean WHOIS and hosting etc. ?
Here's my results
webwise.bt.com resolves to IP 89.145.112.32
That has WHOIS of
% Information related to '89.145.112.0 - 89.145.113.255'
inetnum: 89.145.112.0 - 89.145.113.255
netname: G-CUS-PH02
descr: Phorm IPv4 Assignment
country: GB
admin-c: GAT1-RIPE
tech-c: GAT1-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: GYRON-MNT
mnt-lower: GYRON-MNT
mnt-routes: GYRON-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered
role: Gyron Admin Team
address: Gyron Internet Ltd
address: 6 Greenwich View Place
address: Millharbour
address: LONDON
address: E14 9NN
phone: +44 (0) 845 888 6900
fax-no: +44 (0) 845 888 6910
abuse-mailbox: abuse@gyron.net
admin-c: RB30-RIPE
tech-c: RB30-RIPE
tech-c: OB924-RIPE
tech-c: BPM1-RIPE
nic-hdl: GAT1-RIPE
remarks: Please use this contact in preference to any others
remarks: that may be listed in the RIPE database
source: RIPE # Filtered
% Information related to '89.145.64.0/18AS29017'
route: 89.145.64.0/18
descr: GYRON-AGG Gyron Internet Ltd AS29017
origin: AS29017
mnt-by: GYRON-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered
************
and for bt.phorm.com - same IP as webwise.bt.com and the WHOIS on bt.phorm.com is
Administrative Contact:
Cote, Chris chris.cote@phorm.com
Phorm, Inc.
264 W. 40th St., 16th Floor
New York, New York 10018
United States
2123592030 Fax --
Technical Contact:
Clark, Allan allan.clark@phorm.com
Phorm, Inc
264 W40 Street
16th Floor
New York, New York 10018
United States
2123592030 Fax --
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.PHORM.COM
NS2.PHORM.COM
NS3.PHORM.COM
NS4.PHORM.COM
NS5.PHORM.COM
NS6.PHORM.COM
When I put phorm.com in my browser, I get sent to http://www.phorm.com/ and not to bt.phorm.com
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17-07-2008, 12:45
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#11948
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Inactive
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 147
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
So they took the servers off line to update the content? Very professional
The advertising sub-domain site doesn't look too pretty either:
http://advertising.phorm.com/
edit: Seems to be a problem with firefox - possibly related to caching of style sheets or something similar.
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17-07-2008, 12:55
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#11949
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 174
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Warning!!! Do not follow the actions below unless you are an IT Professional with the relevant experience. The site that the actions will lead to may compromise your PC.
Right guys, I have found a blog belonging to the Phorm Comms Team. For those in the know, type blog.phorm.com into robtex - you will notice that the IP is one of Phorms.
Visiting http://blog.phorm.com is not an issue. However, visiting by IP flags a serious security alert with Norton.
(To mods: The site is in the public domain - and this is not given bad advice, on the contrary it is alerting users to a potential risk, which may be nothing knowing norton)
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17-07-2008, 12:57
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#11950
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Inactive
Join Date: Mar 2005
Age: 43
Services: Freeview, BT Ultrafast Fibre 2
Posts: 330
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Quote:
Originally Posted by R Jones
Second - I got my first new poster on BT Beta Forums as a result of all your efforts yesterday. She's furious!! (with BT, not you lot!)
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In terms of giving share holders an education on the subject that is a massive vindication, well done!
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17-07-2008, 13:35
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#11951
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Permanently Banned
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 121
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
The PIA has been finished I understand, will it be published now ?
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17-07-2008, 13:42
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#11952
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Inactive
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 147
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Quote:
Originally Posted by tarka
BT to begin further trials of ad technology
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/34c59420-5...077b07658.html
"Carphone Warehouse’s Talk Talk and Virgin Media have also run trials."
A misinformed journalist perhaps or is there more to it?
"Gavin Patterson, head of BT Retail, told the group’s annual general meeting that customers would again have to opt-in for the service." (my bold emphasis)
Isn't this more deliberate misinformation? The previous trials were not opt in... they didn't even have an opt out!
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Now slightly closer to being correct:
"Carphone Warehouse’s Talk Talk and Virgin Media have also agreed to evaluate the service but are yet to run trials."
What about the print edition though? I suspect the original version may have had something to do with todays share price rise.
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17-07-2008, 13:43
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#11953
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Guest
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deko
The PIA has been finished I understand, will it be published now ?
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Baroness Miller thinks it should be published on the Phorm site in the near future... no show so far.
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17-07-2008, 14:08
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#11954
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Inactive
Join Date: Mar 2005
Age: 43
Services: Freeview, BT Ultrafast Fibre 2
Posts: 330
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Perhaps they tried to upload the PIA earlier but the webserver couldn't handle that much bad news which caused it to crash.
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17-07-2008, 14:09
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#11955
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Inactive
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 265
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Quote:
Originally Posted by rryles
Now corrected:
"Carphone Warehouse’s Talk Talk and Virgin Media have also agreed to evaluate the service but are yet to run trials."
What about the print edition though? I suspect the original version may have had something to do with todays share price rise.
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The Article in question has still "NOT" been corrected properly the last paragraph states the ICO cleared then of wrong doing (effectively the 2006-2007 trial)
This is not true ICO said "technical breach".
ICO doesn't have enough power to prosecute is the real reason!
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