Britain outside the EU

[Taf]

So we were not going to have turkey or pigs in blankets for xmas day as "all the EU workers have been kicked out".

Well, many decided to take up the offer to stay and carry on working.

And no shortages of turkey, pigs in blankets or anything else the remoaners said would happen.

No shortages of EU goods either.

Originally Posted by ianch99

I do not remember the Leave campaign clearly & publicly presenting the inherent risks on leaving the EU

Why would they? That was the remain campaign’s job. Guess my sentence could have been clearer … each side articulates the benefits of its proposition and the risks of the opposition.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Taf

No shortages of EU goods either.

The test for EU imports is next year when we start checking them.

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Originally Posted by Taf

So we were not going to have turkey or pigs in blankets for xmas day as "all the EU workers have been kicked out".

Well, many decided to take up the offer to stay and carry on working.

And no shortages of turkey, pigs in blankets or anything else the remoaners said would happen.

It seems the quality of some of the turkeys this year left a bit to be desired.

ROTTEN LUCK Christmas dinners ruined by ‘rancid’ gone off turkeys from Aldi, Tesco and Sainsbury’s

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/17146...co-sainsburys/

British shoppers cry fowl over ‘rotten’ turkeys that ‘ruined’ Christmas dinners

https://nypost.com/2021/12/26/britis...stmas-dinners/

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The test for EU imports is next year when we start checking them.

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It seems the quality of some of the turkeys this year left a bit to be desired.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/17146...co-sainsburys/


https://nypost.com/2021/12/26/britis...stmas-dinners/

I can’t wait to hear how this is something to do with Brexit.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by Chris

I can’t wait to hear how this is something to do with Brexit.

Exactly, talk about clinging at straws.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

Exactly, talk about clinging at straws.

Are you sure that that a lack of workers has no impact on the quality of these turkeys?

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Are you sure that that a lack of workers has no impact on the quality of these turkeys?

Were there any shortages?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by ianch99

You assume that everyone who voted did so based on politically ideology when the opposite is true. Most were promised a better future with no downside when all they have is a broken country run by crooks.

As time goes on and the fog of Covid clears, it will be these people, the ones who realise that they have been conned, that will be the ones that really suffer. The economic downside will manifest in reduced public services, lower quality food & environment standards, the list goes on.

The structural damage to the country in terms of societal divisions, generational betrayal, international reputation, empowering of latent racist & xenophobic views, etc. is significant and lasting.

A truely Pyrrhic victory.


<SNIP>

You really don't understand Brexit, being so overcome by bitterness.

The average Leave supporter was not fooled by any "sunny upland" spiel any more than he/she was fooled/worried by Osborne's dire warning of being £4,300 worse off per year.

The average leave supporter just wanted to get out of the EU's clutches and very obviously understood there would be a period of economic adjustment.

Admittedly it doesn't help that we have a shit PM at the moment who can't be trusted to take good economic decisions. But Covid has spannered the works somewhat and the likes of you should be supporting the UK's move forward rather than whinging on the sidelines.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Apparently there's going to be an inquiry into our trade deal with Australia now, things like hormone fed beef and general animal welfare being the chief concerns, weren't we promised our standards wouldn't drop and if anything would be higher

The Daddy, why is this bothering you so much?

If you don’t want to eat Australian beef, don’t buy it. However, don’t begrudge poorer people the ability to buy food which is actually better for them than pizzas, burgers,etc.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Or covid has helped avoid proper scrutiny of what's been happening, got a feeling some people are going to be held accountable for the things they've said in the coming year

Covid has delayed implementation of manifesto pledges. Surely, anyone can see that.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Are you sure that that a lack of workers has no impact on the quality of these turkeys?

Oh no you don’t.

You make a proposition, you provide evidence. You don’t make assertions then expect others to prove the negative.

So, please, prove to us so we’re sure that these rancid turkeys had something to do with Brexit.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Yet again, you ignore the reality of what is happening now and focus on the illusory sunlit uploads. If all you can point to (yet again) is "opportunity", then you really did take the blue pill.

No, I am not. We have only left the EU for a year and we have spent that time getting rollover deals and shoring up issues in problem areas such as the NI Protocol. Do you seriously expect there to have been big benefits achieved in 12 months? Because if you did, you have clearly never been involved in project management.

Let’s come back to this in five years, when things will look completely different. What is happening right now is a side show for those who lack vision.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

You really don't understand Brexit, being so overcome by bitterness.

The average Leave supporter was not fooled by any "sunny upland" spiel any more than he/she was fooled/worried by Osborne's dire warning of being £4,300 worse off per year.

The average leave supporter just wanted to get out of the EU's clutches and very obviously understood there would be a period of economic adjustment.

Admittedly it doesn't help that we have a shit PM at the moment who can't be trusted to take good economic decisions. But Covid has spannered the works somewhat and the likes of you should be supporting the UK's move forward rather than whinging on the sidelines.

I agree with most of that, except that I wouldn’t write off the PM just yet.

Originally Posted by Taf

So we were not going to have turkey or pigs in blankets for xmas day as "all the EU workers have been kicked out".

Well, many decided to take up the offer to stay and carry on working.

And no shortages of turkey, pigs in blankets or anything else the remoaners said would happen.

No shortages of EU goods either.

tbf, it wasn’t "Remainers" who said that, but representatives of the Traditional Farm-fresh Turkey Association (TFTA) & the British Meat Processors Association.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-menu-too.html

A BMPA spokesperson said: 'We really should have been producing Christmas food from about June or July onwards this year and so far we haven't, so there'll be shortages of party foods and things like pigs in blankets. Anything that is labour-intensive work could see shortages.'

A BMPA spokesperson said: 'We really should have been producing Christmas food from about June or July onwards this year and so far we haven't, so there'll be shortages of party foods and things like pigs in blankets. Anything that is labour-intensive work could see shortages.'

[OLD BOY]

We had the best turkey ever this year, courtesy of our local farm shop.

[Sephiroth]

It seems to me that the effect of any worker shortage was a lack of leftover turkeys on the supermarket shelves - at least as far as I could tell.

[OLD BOY]

Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY

‘On either side, I would add. Just for completeness, of course.’

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Link?

I think you must be resorting to desperation now, Andrew!