Police to get tough on internet trolls.

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

I have a friend who would say they hate their neighbour because he's (to use my friend's words) a knob. So you're saying my friend couldn't be accused of a hate crime dispute admitting the deep hatred he has because you have to be in a protected group and being a knob isn't protected??

What a strange world we live in.

I think it's more pertinent to ask why his neighbour is a knob? Without that info it's moot.Background info is so important.

[Carth]

Their political correspondence from Westminster Mark Darcy described it as a massive bill that is now starting to make its way through Parliament. He went on to say that it will cover a wide variety of user generated content, such as inciting or threatening violence, hate crime against those in the protected groups eg disabled, black, LGBT+ people, financial crime, scams, protection of children from harmful material, cyber flashing, posting material that triggers epileptic fits etc.

Is there anywhere that one can view the list of protected groups?

Just asking to see if I, as a white able bodied male heterosexual (as I recall) pensioner, sound of mind and body, with no political or religious affiliation, perhaps belong to one of them . . . or am I now in the minority and allowed to be abused?

edit: apparently I may fall into a special category as I'm classed (statistically) as overweight and smoke/drink, therefore at risk of a multitude of illnesses both physical and mental, although I think being a sarcastic grumpy old fart isn't an illness as such, but more an enhanced life skill

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Carth

Is there anywhere that one can view the list of protected groups?

Just asking to see if I, as a white able bodied male heterosexual (as I recall) pensioner, sound of mind and body, with no political or religious affiliation, perhaps belong to one of them . . . or am I now in the minority and allowed to be abused?

edit: apparently I may fall into a special category as I'm classed (statistically) as overweight and smoke/drink, therefore at risk of a multitude of illnesses both physical and mental, although I think being a sarcastic grumpy old fart isn't an illness as such, but more an enhanced life skill

https://brittontime.com/2021/06/18/w...-equality-act/

[Carth]

Nice link Richard, most informative . . however, could linking to a firm of solicitors be seen as advertising for them which, in a way, is discriminating against other firms of solicitors?

just curious how the new rules would deal with that one

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Maggy

I think it's more pertinent to ask why his neighbour is a knob? Without that info it's moot.Background info is so important.

He has the attitude of "I've lived here 30 years and nobody's going to tell me what I can and can't do in my own house or garden"

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

He has the attitude of "I've lived here 30 years and nobody's going to tell me what I can and can't do in my own house or garden"

What's the problem with that?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

What's the problem with that?

Plenty if they're an inconsiderate asshat

[Carth]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Plenty if they're an inconsiderate asshat

What if it's the neighbour complaing that's the "inconsiderate asshat"?

Two sides to a story . . well you'd think so but I often wonder

Originally Posted by Carth

Two sides to a story . . well you'd think so but I often wonder

There are 3 sides to a story

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Carth

Is there anywhere that one can view the list of protected groups?

Just asking to see if I, as a white able bodied male heterosexual (as I recall) pensioner, sound of mind and body, with no political or religious affiliation, perhaps belong to one of them . . . or am I now in the minority and allowed to be abused?

edit: apparently I may fall into a special category as I'm classed (statistically) as overweight and smoke/drink, therefore at risk of a multitude of illnesses both physical and mental, although I think being a sarcastic grumpy old fart isn't an illness as such, but more an enhanced life skill

So your not my missing twin after all. Even if we both have an enhanced life skill. Not fat, don't smoke but other than that ....... just to mix it up a bit are not the likes of black police officers association, discrimination

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Paul

There are 3 sides to a story

As many as you like if you are in a protected group.

[RichardCoulter]

Carol Voderman was on Channel 5 again this morning. She (and Jeremy Vine) went into more depth about the Metaverse/VR experience and what it's like to use it. it effectively convinces the brain that it is real life.

It really is immersive, can be enjoyable and can be used to help medical problems- I do hope to get the chance to use it sometime.

It's even possible to have a group chat with friends as if you are all altogether. I think that this will partially replace social media and, in time, will replace chat rooms and forums. Those who are children now will see conversing via typing in words as quaintly old fashioned and are expected to spend ten years of their lives in total in the Metaverse.

Sadly, as ever, trolls, paedophiles and bigots etc spoil the wonderful possibilities that this technology offers.

Carol Voderman said that half of the women researched who had used it had been sexually harassed, groped and abused; she also said that there is a lot of harassment of people of colour. She highlighted an incident where a black man was racially abused and then effectively beaten up (apparently, you are able to physically feel it if someone hits you).

Another incident was where a seven year old girl was approached by a paedophile, so you can guess the rest.

This is why she says that she is campaigning for the Metaverse to be specifically included in the Online Safety Bill. She believes that anything that would be illegal in real life should also be illegal in the Metaverse. She thinks that the mental health problems caused by internet trolls is bad enough, but that this will be much worse as, if you use the analogy of describimg the internet as water, the Metaverse is akin to diving into a swimming pool.

https://www.channel5.com/show/jeremy...022/episode-79

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Carol Voderman was on Channel 5 again this morning. She (and Jeremy Vine) went into more depth about the Metaverse/VR experience and what it's like to use it. it effectively convinces the brain that it is real life.

It really is immersive, can be enjoyable and can be used to help medical problems- I do hope to get the chance to use it sometime.

It's even possible to have a group chat with friends as if you are all altogether. I think that this will partially replace social media and, in time, will replace chat rooms and forums. Those who are children now will see conversing via typing in words as quaintly old fashioned and are expected to spend ten years of their lives in total in the Metaverse.

Sadly, as ever, trolls, paedophiles and bigots etc spoil the wonderful possibilities that this technology offers.

Carol Voderman said that half of the women researched who had used it had been sexually harassed, groped and abused; she also said that there is a lot of harassment of people of colour. She highlighted an incident where a black man was racially abused and then effectively beaten up (apparently, you are able to physically feel it if someone hits you).

Another incident was where a seven year old girl was approached by a paedophile, so you can guess the rest.

This is why she says that she is campaigning for the Metaverse to be specifically included in the Online Safety Bill. She believes that anything that would be illegal in real life should also be illegal in the Metaverse. She thinks that the mental health problems caused by internet trolls is bad enough, but that this will be much worse as, if you use the analogy of describimg the internet as water, the Metaverse is akin to diving into a swimming pool.

https://www.channel5.com/show/jeremy...022/episode-79

Pron in VR is a sight to behold hahaha

Just stay out of VR Chat Rooms and play single player games and you will have no issues

Just for reference no one ever gets groped in VR it is not real you can not be touched

You can only feel something if you wear a haptic suit and it still will not be like getting a beating

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Maggy

I think it's more pertinent to ask why his neighbour is a knob? Without that info it's moot.Background info is so important.

This threat is becoming more and more detached and surreal.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Pron in VR is a sight to behold hahaha

Just stay out of VR Chat Rooms and play single player games and you will have no issues

Just for reference no one ever gets groped in VR it is not real you can not be touched

You can only feel something if you wear a haptic suit and it still will not be like getting a beating

Thanks, it's not something I know much about yet.

I didn't think that you could get a real beating, I think it's the fact that people have the desire to act out these fantasies (that they probably can't/daren't do in real life) that she finds so objectionable and offensive.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

This threat is becoming more and more detached and surreal.

One day, maybe streaming services will be viewed as old fashioned and we will actually be in programmes, either as an observer or participant, via the Metaverse!

Football fans could watch a game whilst virtually sitting in the terraces with other fans, or be sitting in the Rovers Return having a pint whilst watching the other 'customers' acting out their lives.

As crime increases, travel becomes more expensive and there's a desire to cut pollution, perhaps the future is to virtually sit with our friends at the theatre or in the pub, knowing that we won't get mugged or that our home will be burgled in our absence. Cheaper, safer and more environmentaly friendly, but will it be the same? It could also see a lot of businesses go under.