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Old 12-06-2024, 19:18   #766
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Re: Freeview changes

Funny how they are now using MTN for placeholder channels which never actually launch. It's almost as if they are channel squatting.
All of the convoluted changes along with technical details are now available at ukterrestrialtvchanges.blogspot.com
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Old 12-06-2024, 20:32   #767
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Re: Freeview changes

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Funny how they are now using MTN for placeholder channels which never actually launch. It's almost as if they are channel squatting.
All of the convoluted changes along with technical details are now available at ukterrestrialtvchanges.blogspot.com
As Channel 4 rent out it new slot to That's Media.

BBC B has 10.5Mb/s free

*That more for two new HD Channels to launch BBC News HD than S4C HD/BBC Scotland HD. Then BBC Three HD can launch in Wales and Scotland.
*Up to 10 SD Channels on Freeview.

You may say BBC can't rent out BBCB.

Yes they can as S4C HD (In wales), ITV HD, UTV HD, STV HD, Channel 4 HD, Channel 5 HD, TBN UK and 5SELECT broadcast on BBCB right now.
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Old 12-06-2024, 21:37   #768
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As Channel 4 rent out it new slot to That's Media.

BBC B has 10.5Mb/s free

*That more for two new HD Channels to launch BBC News HD than S4C HD/BBC Scotland HD. Then BBC Three HD can launch in Wales and Scotland.
*Up to 10 SD Channels on Freeview.

You may say BBC can't rent out BBCB.

Yes they can as S4C HD (In wales), ITV HD, UTV HD, STV HD, Channel 4 HD, Channel 5 HD, TBN UK and 5SELECT broadcast on BBCB right now.
D3&4 is 50/50 ITV/C4 with Channel 5 gifted capacity in the ITV half and S4C gifted capacity on the C4 half but only in Wales. BBC A isn't allowed to sell any slots to third parties but BBC B is a commercial licence run in the same way as BBC Studios / UKTV. The problem with BBC B is that the BBC hasn't yet committed to extending its licence past its current expiry of November 2026. So they won't be entering into new long term contracts.
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Old 12-06-2024, 22:22   #769
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D3&4 is 50/50 ITV/C4 with Channel 5 gifted capacity in the ITV half and S4C gifted capacity on the C4 half but only in Wales. BBC A isn't allowed to sell any slots to third parties but BBC B is a commercial licence run in the same way as BBC Studios / UKTV. The problem with BBC B is that the BBC hasn't yet committed to extending its licence past its current expiry of November 2026. So they won't be entering into new long term contracts.
D3&4:

Last channel to launch was ITVBe

With this new slot today it would have gone to Channel 4 to move one of their channels (E4 Extra or 4Seven) onto D3&4.

But has rented it out to That's Media to get some extra money,

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This is news to me - thanks for info.
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Old 12-06-2024, 22:40   #770
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D3&4:

Last channel to launch was ITVBe

With this new slot today it would have gone to Channel 4 to move one of their channels (E4 Extra or 4Seven) onto D3&4.

But has rented it out to That's Media to get some extra money,

BBC:

This is news to me - thanks for info.
D3&4 used to be divided into 2 parts and each half would carry an equal number of channels. ITV channels were all stat-muxed and C4 channels were stat-muxed separately then the 2 halves were "stitched" together. It was very inefficient. I think all of the channels are now stat-muxed in one operation, which is more efficient. I'm not going to try to get the data to check that out and do the maths to confirm it but it is the sensible way to do things. Historically though, there should always be an even number of channels on the multiplex. If they are renting capacity to other broadcasters, it would make sense to do it jointly rather than individually. It's always been a weird multiplex though, they allocate bands of channels in decimal ranges rather than hexadecimal. But this is getting a wee bit too technical.
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Re: Freeview changes

Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused.

24 hours slots:
-Old Talk slot on SDN/COM4

Part time slots:
-Together TV slot on SDN/COM4 not in Wales (6pm to Midnight only)

All information right at time of posting.
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Old 24-06-2024, 11:19   #772
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Re: Freeview changes

Everyone TV has announced that 4 more TV brands have signed up to offer Freely smart TVs.
https://www.everyonetv.co.uk/news/pr...ners-confirmed

They will still struggle to get a decent market share unless they can get the likes of Samsung, LG & Sony on board.

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Re: Freeview changes

According to posts on Shopping Telly Forum, Seen on TV (Freeview Channel 94) is down to unforeseen increase in fees from Arqiva that thrown financial spanner in the works.
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Old 24-06-2024, 19:17   #774
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According to posts on Shopping Telly Forum, Seen on TV (Freeview Channel 94) is down to unforeseen increase in fees from Arqiva that thrown financial spanner in the works.
It's a big problem in business if a company agrees to a contract without fully understanding the terms and conditions. Even more of a problem if they don't have the cash reserves to overcome these obstacles. Probably better to have happened at an early stage than to have built up large debts and have no possibility of actually paying them. Just another chapter in the curse of shopping TV.
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It's a big problem in business if a company agrees to a contract without fully understanding the terms and conditions. Even more of a problem if they don't have the cash reserves to overcome these obstacles. Probably better to have happened at an early stage than to have built up large debts and have no possibility of actually paying them. Just another chapter in the curse of shopping TV.
Maybe it a new rule of Arqiva their loss money on the old Ideal World.
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Maybe it a new rule of Arqiva their loss money on the old Ideal World.
I don't think it's a new rule as such but they have been stung by similar operations in the past and are right to be cautious. They don't stand for any nonsense though, as View TV found when they tried to bend the rules for Rathergood Radio.
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According to posts on Shopping Telly Forum, Seen on TV (Freeview Channel 94) is down to unforeseen increase in fees from Arqiva that thrown financial spanner in the works.
As reported by UKTTVC, the founder, Simon Iles, has now officially announced the closure on the Seen on TV facebook page.
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https://ukterrestrialtvchanges.blogspot.com/
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It Freeview the same in all regions or does it vary?


I'll be using it next week on a mini break
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It Freeview the same in all regions or does it vary?


I'll be using it next week on a mini break
May very.
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It Freeview the same in all regions or does it vary?


I'll be using it next week on a mini break
Same other than BBC 1, ITV 1/STV and BBC regional / local radio stations and local tv stations. Also, some minor differences in Wales.
Some areas away from the main transmitters have a cut down service from relay transmitters.
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