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Old 25-09-2019, 12:04   #526
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Less perspective more deflection.
I'm simply pointing out that people are trying to hang a guy for doing something 'which he took legal advice on' and was then found by a panel of Judges, to be 'unlawful'

Nobody died, the global terror threat hasn't been significantly increased, companies and individuals haven't made a vast fortune from the rebuilding of infrastructure etc.

Remind me again of Blairs roles after his PM stint
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion

An interesting point was thrown up by the Supreme Court judgement. Here's a quote;

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The House of Commons exists because the people have elected its members. The Government is not directly elected by the people (unlike the position in some other democracies). The Government exists because it has the confidence of the House of Commons. It has no democratic legitimacy other than that. This means that it is accountable to the House of Commons - and indeed to the House of Lords
This seems to clarify that we, as voters, do not vote for Government and Government is only answerable to Parliament. Or, in other words, Government only exists because Parliament wills it.

This puts the whole idea of following a manifesto in to the light. It seems that once in Government, the promises made in the manifesto are legally moot
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That's always been the case though.
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That's always been the case though.
That's probably one of the few things everyone on here will agree on

We all know how it works, yet parties still promise the world during a campaign. I wonder, do the parties actually believe all the stuff they say or is it that they still think we're gullible fools?

I've always been an admirer of the Raving Monster lot, some of their stuff is priceless
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I can't help noticing that now that parliament has been hurriedly reconvened in this time of "national crisis" it is in the most part empty ie void of mp's .
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I can't help noticing that now that parliament has been hurriedly reconvened in this time of "national crisis" it is in the most part empty ie void of mp's .
Not everyone can get a flight arranged at short notice, no matter the price, by the Government...

Looks to have reasonable attendance today...

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Also some MP's have to arrange things like childcare and prior commitments.
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Also some MP's have to arrange things like childcare and prior commitments.
That would be tricky for BJ - he would have to know how many there were and where they were...
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Not everyone can get a flight arranged at short notice, no matter the price, by the Government...

Looks to have reasonable attendance today...

Turn on the live feed it's practically empty.
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Turn on the live feed it's practically empty.
They probably know its going to be a longer session so have popped off to the bars and restaurants to replenish themselves before the main event.
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They probably know its going to be a longer session so have popped off to the bars and restaurants to replenish themselves before the main event.
In a time of "national crisis" after all that drivel at the supreme court they just end up in the bar .
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In a time of "national crisis" after all that drivel at the supreme court they just end up in the bar .
We have had a crisis for the last three years plus unless you have not noticed.
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We all know how it works, yet parties still promise the world during a campaign. I wonder, do the parties actually believe all the stuff they say or is it that they still think we're gullible fools?
Loving the 2016 irony here ...
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Well played by Boris here. Tell them to put up or shut up.
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Well played by Boris here. Tell them to put up or shut up.
It's the best session ever,he's really on the ball.
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