Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Neither of them get a free pass - they both broke the rules, doesn't matter how many times one side did over the other, rule breaking is rule breaking.

Do we actually know that Starmer has broken the rules? A few people on here have gone on about it quite a lot but it's not being investigated or anything is it? Last April was not like the tough lockdown of 2020.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Do we actually know that Starmer has broken the rules? A few people on here have gone on about it quite a lot but it's not being investigated or anything is it? Last April was not like the tough lockdown of 2020.

Keir Starmer enjoyed a beer with Labour workers, despite lockdown rules banning indoor social gatherings.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Keir Starmer enjoyed a beer with Labour workers, despite lockdown rules banning indoor social gatherings.

A tricky one. He said they just stopped working for a bite to eat and carried on working afterwards. That's why I think it's not been taken further.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

A tricky one. He said they just stopped working for a bite to eat and carried on working afterwards. That's why I think it's not been taken further.

How is any different, really? If it was a working party, with the same people attending who work together indoors, it sounds like a storm in a teacup.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

How is any different, really? If it was a working party, with the same people attending who work together indoors, it sounds like a storm in a teacup.

Well, there wasn’t an email sent to 100 people, saying "let’s have some socially distanced drinks, and bring your own booze",

Or

It wasn’t two separate parties (one of which was a leaving party) in the same building, who then joined up later in the garden, on the evening before Prince Philip’s funeral

but besides that, no difference…

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

How is any different, really? If it was a working party, with the same people attending who work together indoors, it sounds like a storm in a teacup.

My curiosity has been raised as people on the forum have gone on about it. Obviously, having a break for food and drink in 2021 at work is somewhat different than inviting 100 people to an event in 2020.

[Sephiroth]

The public, as I perceive them, would give Starmer the benefit of the doubt - if only because the Tories, who have been caught bang to rights, are making a big fuss about it.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The public, as I perceive them, would give Starmer the benefit of the doubt - if only because the Tories, who have been caught bang to rights, are making a big fuss about it.

As a member of the public, I see starmer as guilty as Boris.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The public, as I perceive them, would give Starmer the benefit of the doubt - if only because the Tories, who have been caught bang to rights, are making a big fuss about it.

I think the fact there is a photo/video helps Starmer because it shows him in an office with a beer, rather mundane.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

I think the fact there is a photo/video helps Starmer because it shows him in an office with a beer, rather mundane.

Yes, that makes sense.

[Dave42]

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Up-pointing red triangle UPDATE: Tory MPs who want to oust Johnson are considering publishing a secretly recorded conversation with the chief whip and text messages after they accused the government of blackmail and intimidation

https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1484286584304373774

[1andrew1]

Encouraging to see a bit of honesty.

Downing Street parties were bad for democracy, admits Sajid Javid

Sajid Javid has admitted parties took place in Downing Street during lockdown and said they had been "damaging" to Britain's democracy.

The Health Secretary appeared to go further than Boris Johnson, who has sought to avoid referring to the events themselves while apologising for the "hurt" they had caused.

On Thursday, Mr Javid urged the public to wait for the findings of an official inquiry by Sue Gray, a senior civil servant, but condemned the parties as "completely wrong".

"We do now know there were some parties. We know that because some of the people that were involved and broke the rules have come forward to say so," he said.

"Of course things like this damage our democracy. From what we already know from the people who have come forward and apologised for the parties that took place, for example the one on the eve of Prince Philip's funeral, that was completely wrong.

“It was wrong in every single way. The way we now get through this is to get the facts out, get them on the table so we can all reach a judgment ourselves."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...?ocid=msedgntp

Originally Posted by Dave42

cant get how people don't understand they broke the rules they made

'people' understand perfectly, but some of those 'people' just dont really care that much about a few "parties" a year (or more) ago, and are more irritated by the OTT fuss continually being made about it.

Originally Posted by Paul

'people' understand perfectly, but some of those 'people' just dont really care that much about a few "parties" a year (or more) ago, and are more irritated by the OTT fuss continually being made about it.

Precisely, Russia is literally on the precipice of invading Ukraine, many pundits and world leaders say it’s gonna happen, this could thrust us all in to World War 3.

But yeah, UK media go on and on about no. 10 parties. defections…

[1andrew1]

The best way of clearing up this whole matter is for Johnson to step down.