Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Why would you prefer to believe DC anyway? Seems like you haven’t thought this one through.

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What will work as a defence is actual evidence. An oath taken by Cummings is worthless.

because Johnson is the biggest liar in country by far if i had to pick i choose to believe the one that not biggest liar in country

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Clearly, there are a lot of people out there, including on this forum, who are not interested in the facts because they just want any excuse to see the back of Boris. After all, this is the only way Labour and the other political parties can steal a march on the Conservatives. That’s because they have no worthwhile policies to fight with.

There's a near-consensus on this Forum that the longer Johnson hangs on, the better Labour's election chances will be.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

What will work as a defence is actual evidence. An oath taken by Cummings is worthless.

That email invite suffices for most of the public.

Would Johnson's oath be equally worthless?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Dave42

because Johnson is the biggest liar in country by far if i had to pick i chose to believe the one that not biggest liar in country

So you have two alleged liars and you choose, without waiting for evidence and preferring to take full account of uncorroborated allegations, to believe one over the other.

I wouldn’t apply for a position as a judge without a lot more education if I were you! Your conclusion, and the way you arrived at it, is completely illogical.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

There's a near-consensus on this Forum that the longer Johnson hangs on, the better Labour's election chances will be.

I am afraid that the views of this Forum do not represent evidence.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

That email invite suffices for most of the public.

So what? That email does not prove that the event had his blessing. And for all you know, there might have been a subsequent email that withdrew or amended the first. We simply don’t know, do we?

I have no idea why you are so scared of the report. Don’t you want to know the full detail behind it?

Of course you don’t.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

So you have two alleged liars and you choose, without waiting for evidence and preferring to take full account of uncorroborated allegations, to believe one over the other.

I wouldn’t apply for a position as a judge without a lot more education if I were you! Your conclusion, and the way you arrived at it, is completely illogical.

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I am afraid that the views of this Forum do not represent evidence.

Johnson is one that made the rules now saying he didnt know the rules the ones that he made come on OB

https://twitter.com/patrickkmaguire/...34414818725888

Even government whips acknowledging that a confidence vote in Boris Johnson is a question of if not when this evening…

One admits: “We’re not at 54 letters yet. But there are definitely 54 letters out there.”

(He means a question of when not if obviously)

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Dave42

Johnson is one that made the rules now saying he didnt know the rules the ones that he made come on OB

He hasn’t said that. What he said about not being told it was against the rules was in answer to the allegation that he was told just that.

You have changed his denial into a separate assertion.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

He hasn’t said that. What he said about not being told it was against the rules was in answer to the allegation that he was told just that.

You have changed his denial into a separate assertion.

Dave42 is right. Check out the Sky News video below. Johnson says "nobody told me" the Number 10 garden party during lockdown was "against the rules".

Whilst ignorance of the law is no defence, they're his rules that he announced the rules to the public!
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1483431855001063429

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The Government's alleged attempt at a deadcat in the form of briefing that Ghana and Rwanda would be sent asylum applicants has ended spectacularly poorly. Ghana has cleverly termed it "Operation Dead Meat" and denied it strongly.
https://twitter.com/GhanaMFA/status/...903937/photo/1

https://twitter.com/christopherhope/...44039555321864

EXC As many as 20 Tory MPs from the 2019 intake are planning to submit letters of no confidence in Boris Johnson tomorrow.
The number could breach the 54 letters required for a confidence vote. One 2019 Tory MP told me it could be the PM’s “D-Day”, adding: “His time has gone.”

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I was referring to how people are twisting the truth to suit their own agendas.

The PM was contrite at that interview with Beth Rigby. Frankly, it doesn’t matter what Boris says about this, he knows his detractors will choose not to believe him. That is why he wants the report issued, so the facts are set out clearly and people will have those facts to consider.

Clearly, there are a lot of people out there, including on this forum, who are not interested in the facts because they just want any excuse to see the back of Boris. After all, this is the only way Labour and the other political parties can steal a march on the Conservatives. That’s because they have no worthwhile policies to fight with.

He looked like a five year old who had been caught with his hands in the sweetie jar. My dog makes a better job of looking contrite. He should be a lot better at it by now, he's had enough practice apologising to all and sundry. Perhaps he needs some lessons from Matt Hancock.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by daveeb

He looked like a five year old who had been caught with his hands in the sweetie jar. My dog makes a better job of looking contrite. He should be a lot better at it by now, he's had enough practice apologising to all and sundry. Perhaps he needs some lessons from Matt Hancock.

Your dog would also make a better job of running the country too.

[mrmistoffelees]

Bit of a bugger for Carrie mind, all that money she spent on the decorating and now it looks like she’s going to be moving out

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Your dog would also make a better job of running the country too.

funny you say that, we had that conversation and came to the same conclusion.

Sky are reporting that some MPs think they've got 54 letters already in. This might be kicking off tonight.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Bit of a bugger for Carrie mind, all that money she spent on the decorating and now it looks like she’s going to be moving out

Can understand now why Johnson said the place was a bit of a dump. After so many house parties, I can appreciate it was not in the same condition that Theresa May left it.

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Bit of a bugger for Carrie mind, all that money she spent on the decorating and now it looks like she’s going to be moving out

tbf, Brownlow spent it first, then it was Conservative Central Office and the Cabinet Office, then it was Boris Johnson…