Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
20-09-2018, 15:09
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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Why can't an agreement be made in the UK if similar agreements have been made in other countries?
Also interesting to see what happens to the Horizon software if Comcast acquires Sky.
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No reason whatsoever.
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20-09-2018, 15:58
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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We was given the GOLD HD info just after 7.30pm on Monday Night by Virgin Media Sources. but we did not see info until we want online testing out internet phone out and seen it. The Tuesday post was our first and only post using Internet phone. It took us over 2 hour to post it.
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20-09-2018, 16:01
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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No reason whatsoever.
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Of course there’s a reason.
Why would say, BBC, ITV, Channel 4 who are planning a “Netflix rival” allow the cable operator to store five years worth of content?
Of course they could slap a high price on it, however given the “price rises” thread would the customer base pay more for it? Unlikely.
Similarly Sky and BT, who would struggle to offer a comparable service without impacting broadband speeds, would have no real incentive to make their content available.
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20-09-2018, 16:21
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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TiVo boxes at Media Boy HQ is reporting that Motorsport TV UK will close on Virgin UK Channel 545 on September 30th at Midnight - early Monday October 1st.
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20-09-2018, 16:35
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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Of course there’s a reason.
Why would say, BBC, ITV, Channel 4 who are planning a “Netflix rival” allow the cable operator to store five Cinj years worth of content?
Of course they could slap a high price on it, however given the “price rises” thread would the customer base pay more for it? Unlikely.
Similarly Sky and BT, who would struggle to offer a comparable service without impacting broadband speeds, would have no real incentive to make their content available.
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Five years of content where have you plucked that number from ?
Edit : Ultimate Conj has just confirmed from OB's article.
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20-09-2018, 16:39
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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Five years of content where have you plucked that number from ?
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Hi MM,
This is from the article, OB posted
"Recordings will be stored in the cloud rather than on a local hard drive – the company gave no details how long the recordings will be saved, but in Belgium Telenet said rcordings will automatically be erased after 60 days, unless the viewer wants to keep the recording, which is possible up to five years."
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20-09-2018, 16:43
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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Hi MM,
This is from the article, OB posted
"Recordings will be stored in the cloud rather than on a local hard drive – the company gave no details how long the recordings will be saved, but in Belgium Telenet said rcordings will automatically be erased after 60 days, unless the viewer wants to keep the recording, which is possible up to five years."
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Thanks for the confirmation , as a comparison YouTube TV in the US allows cloud recordings for upto 9 months and Comcast is a year I believe.
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20-09-2018, 16:48
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
If you read the article...
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20-09-2018, 16:57
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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If you read the article...
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5 years in Belgium doesn't mean it would have to be exactly the same in our country look at the times I mentioned in the USA.
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20-09-2018, 16:59
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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So this is the box that we are likely to get in the next version of the V6.
I like the idea of being able to record to the cloud with the ability to retrieve your recordings up to 5 years hence if required, if that is what we will be offered, provided there are no limits to the number of recordings you can save in this way.
I hope the UI is updated by then!
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2018...ud-pvr-and-4k/
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Does this mean in a couple of months the epg and Ui will be changing
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20-09-2018, 18:05
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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5 years in Belgium doesn't mean it would have to be exactly the same in our country look at the times I mentioned in the USA.
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Nice of you to accept I didn’t pluck five years from nowhere and it’d be unlikely content providers here would make content available on the terms enjoyed by our European counterparts.
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Does this mean in a couple of months the epg and Ui will be changing
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No. They have licenced the Tivo software for use in the UK specifically. If we were going to go down the Horizon road in the short to medium term we’d have not started with TiVo on V6.
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20-09-2018, 18:44
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
So this is the box that we are likely to get in the next version of the V6.
I like the idea of being able to record to the cloud with the ability to retrieve your recordings up to 5 years hence if required, if that is what we will be offered, provided there are no limits to the number of recordings you can save in this way.
I hope the UI is updated by then!
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2018...ud-pvr-and-4k/
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I can cope with that - if I haven't watched it after 5 years I never will.
It depends how it works, I suspect every program will be available on the cloud with a marker to say you want it. Possibly you might be able to browse past programs recorded on the cloud and watch even if you didn't know about it at the time of broadcast?
I just hope this applies to all live sports otherwise I wouldn't use it much if at all.
If you have to mark a program prior to broadcast (as you would to record it on V6) I hope there are no limits to the overall number or number at any one time.
This sounds promising, eagerly awaiting the details.
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20-09-2018, 19:15
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
Can someone explain to me the difference between recording in the cloud and On Demand please?
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20-09-2018, 19:39
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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Can someone explain to me the difference between recording in the cloud and On Demand please?
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Recording in the cloud: You choose what is recorded
On Demand: Someone else does.
(Actually that isn't really true. On Demand content is generally provided completely separately from the broadcast, often in advance, and may be a different edit)
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20-09-2018, 19:48
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Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2018)
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Can someone explain to me the difference between recording in the cloud and On Demand please?
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There are similarities in how they operate. However recording in the cloud in theory could cover any content on any channel with no (or a very long) expiry date.
There would be some kind of restriction that you had to flag a programme for recording at the time, you couldn’t just go back to say September 2016 and fish out an old episode of Casualty.
Given enough time and enough series links the back library available to you could be huge, and be a huge incentive not to switch provider.
Depending on how it is applied the benefit to the operator would be it only has to store two copies of each programme (presumably a backup) and each request to play it back comes from that source.
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